Hi everyone. Obligatory I’m enjoying my time here.

Looking at some other discussions about Reddit and what happens to the trove of knowledge when/if it all disappears.

My main question is, if, for example, beehaw decided it wasn’t worth it to keep going and shut their server down, is that the end of just their “subs” or do all of their users and their comments disappear across the whole fediverse?

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    2 years ago

    This is a new town and we’re all still deciding where the houses and streets should go.

    What you’re saying is, “If this particular street doesn’t happen, does that mean the whole town is just chaos and nonsense?”

    No, it doesn’t. It doesn’t even mean anyone else has to tear their house down and flounder in the dirt waiting for consensus.

    It just means the people involved renegotiate things and figure something else out.

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      I don’t think that’s what OP is asking, I feel like it’s more of a straightforward technical question. As in, if an instance is killed, what happens to the data “owned” by that instance?

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        Yeah, that makes sense. I think I responded to “if the worst happens” as some kind of Terrible Doom.

        If you don’t wanna lose data, just back it up.

        If you’re very attached to the specific affiliations you see forming here this week, you’re gonna get wrecked; this is all experimental and everything should be in flux.

        If you wanna know what’s going to happen with this whole general swath of Internet … nobody knows yet, keep working on making your bit of it better.

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        Well the host of that instance would still have the data but most of the time I’m sure they’d just delete it to save space so posts and accounts would be gone forever

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        Thank you yes. That was sort of my question. I didn’t know if any data is pushed to any other instances as a redundancy or a backup. I only used beehaw as an example since its fresh in everyone’s mind.

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    This is actually a very interesting question with regards to the fediverse IMO…

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    There’s that very helpful post on how beehaw defederating affects us

    If my understanding from that is correct, then all the communities,posts, comments, which lemmy.world or any other servers users have subbed/interacted with are all cloned over or lemmy.world or the respective servers.

    So if beehaw shuts down, their data will live on the other servers until they shut down themselves or purge the data for some reason.

    Although this would only be useful for archival purposes and not useful to interact with any of the old posts, as any further changes would not be shared across the remaining servers.