I keep basically all of my shit on Gitlab, so depending on who they sell it to, that might be a goodbye. I’ve really enjoyed the platform, but if it goes into hands of either some clueless business people, data aggregator, or “AI-first” bullshit, i’m migrating to something else.
considering all GitHub projects (including private ones that didn’t explicitly opt out) were used for training AI. GitHub absolutely went to hell after the acquisition. I would never use GitHub for this and many other reasons, and I will never again use GitLab if the same thing happens to it.
Every open source license grants permission for AI training, and GitHub copilot by default rejects completions that exactly match code from its training. You can’t pretend to be pro-open source or pro-free software but at the same time be upset that people are using licensed software within its license terms.
Only if you can reasonably argue that the output is the input (even with exact matches over a certain size being auto-rejected), and that it is enough to qualify as a copyrightable work. I’d argue line completions can never be enough to be copyrightable, and even a short function barely meets the bar unless it is considered creative in some way.
Not all projects on GitHub use the same open source license. I don’t have a problem with scraping on projects that allow it. I have a problem with scraping on the ones that don’t.
So many errors in what you’ve written aren’t with the fact that one can INSTALL a copy of gitlab and get the CI/CD features, but actually with simple English.
I’m in the same boat. I migrated all my stuff to Gitlab the day it was announced that Github was being acquired by Microsoft. I hadn’t even really heard of Codeberg at the time. So I migrated to Gitlab.
And it sounds now like there’s a high likelikhood I’ll need to move it all again.
I’ve had my stuff on Gitlab way before that ever even happened, just because I’ve already had issues with the platform before, and knew it would eventually change hands. Shame it’ll likely happen again with this too
I’ve been casually taking a look at it for a bit, so it’s definitely on the radar
Edit: Overall i’m happy, at first proper glance, but not having access to even barebones CI is kind of a pain. I can’t really deploy my own at the moment, and having to request access to their own Woodpecker instance is something that seems unlikely to be approved
Codeberg is where I will be next. A nonprofit ownership created because they didn’t like the commercialization of other providers that’s getting more and more popular. Seems like they likely won’t go down this rabbit hole.
You shouldn’t wait because it’s going to happen. I moved all of my projects off of Github and Gitlab, and now self-hosting my own gitea instance. It’s been great and never looked back!
Btw gitea has been involved in some shit, most of the Devs quit and created Forgejo. AFAIK you can seamlessly switch from gitea without needing to completely reset it.
Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Is there any official statement? Search didn’t turn up anything. I guess I don’t necessarily need to know exactly how it went down, but I wanna be nosy. :D
I actually have an account on there with almost nothing, just my nix configuration, plus a repo I cloned to commit a bug fix on software I used. But it seemed like the most responsible solution as in the price is reasonable, plus I actually like the interface. Codeberg also looks good and claims to be better in some regards, but these are the only choices nowadays.
Anyhow, I’m still waiting for Pijul to have a final 1.0 release and independent hosting solutions to appear.
It’s funny because despite all the fearmongering about Microsoft’s Github acquisition it feels like it only improved since then, while Gitlab has done a shitton of questionable and shitty decisions, a ton of critical security issues and in general feels like (at best) they don’t know what they are doing.
The only thing Gitlab has going for itself is that it’s self-hostable, but they still retain a large amount of control.
I keep basically all of my shit on Gitlab, so depending on who they sell it to, that might be a goodbye. I’ve really enjoyed the platform, but if it goes into hands of either some clueless business people, data aggregator, or “AI-first” bullshit, i’m migrating to something else.
That’s exactly what is going to happen. There would be no other incentive for companies to buy it.
I can’t think of a single reason that wouldn’t happen.
A company might want to extend it’s service offering with a build pipeline/CICD system, and buying GitLab would get them the best-in-class service.
Microsoft bought GitHub for much of the same reasons, and GitHub didn’t went to hell after the acquisition.
considering all GitHub projects (including private ones that didn’t explicitly opt out) were used for training AI. GitHub absolutely went to hell after the acquisition. I would never use GitHub for this and many other reasons, and I will never again use GitLab if the same thing happens to it.
https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/privacy-policies/github-general-privacy-statement#private-repositories-github-access
? Nothing about such private repo access listed there.
Every open source license grants permission for AI training, and GitHub copilot by default rejects completions that exactly match code from its training. You can’t pretend to be pro-open source or pro-free software but at the same time be upset that people are using licensed software within its license terms.
If you use agplv3 for training your LLC, shouldn’t the code you spit out also be agplv3?
Only if you can reasonably argue that the output is the input (even with exact matches over a certain size being auto-rejected), and that it is enough to qualify as a copyrightable work. I’d argue line completions can never be enough to be copyrightable, and even a short function barely meets the bar unless it is considered creative in some way.
Not all projects on GitHub use the same open source license. I don’t have a problem with scraping on projects that allow it. I have a problem with scraping on the ones that don’t.
If a license forbids LLM training, it is by definition not open source.
Code being visible for anyone to see is open source. The license for that code has nothing to do with it. You’re thinking of FOSS.
Incorrect. Open source means using a license that conforms to the open source definition. You can find that here: https://opensource.org/osd
So many errors in what you’ve written aren’t with the fact that one can INSTALL a copy of gitlab and get the CI/CD features, but actually with simple English.
I’m in the same boat. I migrated all my stuff to Gitlab the day it was announced that Github was being acquired by Microsoft. I hadn’t even really heard of Codeberg at the time. So I migrated to Gitlab.
And it sounds now like there’s a high likelikhood I’ll need to move it all again.
Codeberg didn’t exist back then yet.
That would explain it.
I’ve had my stuff on Gitlab way before that ever even happened, just because I’ve already had issues with the platform before, and knew it would eventually change hands. Shame it’ll likely happen again with this too
Come to Codeberg! I’m a member of the co-op and we’re not for sale.
I’ve been casually taking a look at it for a bit, so it’s definitely on the radar
Edit: Overall i’m happy, at first proper glance, but not having access to even barebones CI is kind of a pain. I can’t really deploy my own at the moment, and having to request access to their own Woodpecker instance is something that seems unlikely to be approved
Codeberg is where I will be next. A nonprofit ownership created because they didn’t like the commercialization of other providers that’s getting more and more popular. Seems like they likely won’t go down this rabbit hole.
You shouldn’t wait because it’s going to happen. I moved all of my projects off of Github and Gitlab, and now self-hosting my own gitea instance. It’s been great and never looked back!
Btw gitea has been involved in some shit, most of the Devs quit and created Forgejo. AFAIK you can seamlessly switch from gitea without needing to completely reset it.
Oh wow, I didn’t know that! Is there any official statement? Search didn’t turn up anything. I guess I don’t necessarily need to know exactly how it went down, but I wanna be nosy. :D
From their FAQ
For now; Forgejo is hard forking, which may break things soon.
come to https://sr.ht/
I actually have an account on there with almost nothing, just my nix configuration, plus a repo I cloned to commit a bug fix on software I used. But it seemed like the most responsible solution as in the price is reasonable, plus I actually like the interface. Codeberg also looks good and claims to be better in some regards, but these are the only choices nowadays.
Anyhow, I’m still waiting for Pijul to have a final 1.0 release and independent hosting solutions to appear.
Same here. Gitlab CI was a game-changer for me, too. Any thoughts on where else you’d consider going? Aside from GitHub, that is.
I suspect that in the worst case scenario, i’ll be moving stuff to Codeberg and hosting my own CI to support it
It’s funny because despite all the fearmongering about Microsoft’s Github acquisition it feels like it only improved since then, while Gitlab has done a shitton of questionable and shitty decisions, a ton of critical security issues and in general feels like (at best) they don’t know what they are doing.
The only thing Gitlab has going for itself is that it’s self-hostable, but they still retain a large amount of control.