• shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    No, that is not correct. Global outage shows the dangers of centralized systems would be a better headline. Monero Worked all day throughout the entire outage with no problems.

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      Define “worked” in this context. You mean their own infrastructure didn’t crash? You certainly didn’t pop down to the store and buying anything useful with Monero 😂

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        Not that day I didn’t, but I have bought Domino’s several times this month, and I bought my groceries at the beginning of the month.

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          So do you use some kind of payment app that does a conversion or do you have to manually convert from Monero to fiat currency?

          Most retailers don’t accept crypto at the point of purchase so I’m curious as to how this would be convenient enough to use regularly.

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        Define “worked” in this context.

        You can still exchange funds as normal because no necessary components or intermediaries were affected by the outage. Only conventional banking systems.

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              Because you can’t just go and buy real world goods at will as with cash. If there’s ever a Carrington Event, your Monero is worthless in an emergency.

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                You can use it for all the same things you can at any other time, as I said. Still not sure what your point is.

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                    Paper wallets. It is definitely false that crypto requires the internet, because it does not. It’s more helpful if it has the internet, for sure, but it’s not an absolute hard requirement.

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      Even central currencies can work if you can make offline and peer to peer payments.

      Not easy to pull off cryptographically, though.

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        True, but do you really expect them to let you use a central bank digital currency peer-to-peer and not have some way of revoking your access to it? If so, you’re absolutely nuts, LOL.

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      … And if the systems you actually interact with go down, you can get fucked as well.

      If you want to buy food with Monero and the payment processor for the local shop doesn’t work, even if it’s a local machine sitting in the back office, you still can’t buy anything.

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        A local machine sitting in the back office, acting as a payment processor, is much easier to access and fix than the Visa Network.

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          Not for you. And certainly not for the staff working in the shop.

          Currently, you’re bartering with copious amounts of copium.

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      4 months ago

      That is not correct, either. The outage even took out decentralized platforms.

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      Monero isn’t bad but I don’t think it is great for easily buying things. At the end of the day trying to use two different currencies is hard. Also Monero gets a bad name because it is used primarily for illegal transactions. It is simply two complex and has no accountability

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        The fact that it’s used for crime means that it actually does what it’s supposed to do and keeping people private. Shoes are also used by bank robbers and we don’t ban shoes. Monero is a tool the same as a hammer or a shoe or a car or a gun.

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          The problem is that it has zero accountability. Shoes, cars, cash and guns are all physical. At the end of the day someone can inspect your shoes or prevent you from taking a gun inside of a theater. Monero allows payments from anywhere and completely anonymously. You can get rid of it as it is decentralized but you can just not use it especially since cash is easy, private and secure.