It seems pretty clear that street-level imaging on OSM is pretty lacking, unless you only want to see highways.

I’m looking to start mapping street-level images for my city, but it seems like there are three players (integrated in the OSM editor), and I don’t know which to commit to:

-KartaView

-Mapillary

-mapilio

My gut is to go with the one with the largest user base (Mapillary), but they are owned by Facebook and who knows what direction they will take in the future or what our images will actually be used for in the long-run.

Karta seems dead.

And Mapilio seems like a knock-off of Mapillary, but with a much smaller user base and an uncertain future.

Are any worth investing hundreds of hours of time to?

  • CowsLookLikeMaps@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I like Mapilio. However the main drawback for me is the OSM ID editor integration isn’t as good as Mapillary and its AI detection of bicycle parking isn’t as good either. But it’s early on and they’re still working very well overall so it’s worth it for me.

    • Thibaultmol@kbin.social
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      1 year ago
      • in Mapilio’s defense, they only launched their integration this month. It might take some time to get up to the same level
      • Mapillary had a whole system for verifying AI detections but that went away when Meta took over and basically forced Mapillary to revamp their entire server infra.
        The tool still exists but doesn’t work because it would have to be modified to use the new api.
        (I’m in contact with Mapillary’s people with a potential solution)
    • Showroom7561@lemmy.caOPEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Looks interesting, but it’s not baked into OSM, so the usefulness for mappers would be severely limited.

      • Thibaultmol@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        *yet
        it’s being developed by OSM FR. So it’s DEF going to get implemented into osm tools down the lines. Geovisio is pretty barebones atm.
        But the idea is similar to lemmy and mastodon and other federated services. Instead of having one giant server like mapillary, each community can have it’s own server and in the future they could federate together.

        • Showroom7561@lemmy.caOPEnglish
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          1 year ago

          it’s being developed by OSM FR

          We’ll, that certainly changes things! Looks like I’ll be keeping an eye on the project after all 😀

  • zbych@szmer.infoEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I used to upload photos to Mapillary, but after takeover by FB I deleten my account.Now I still haven’t found reliable option to upload street images.

  • taladar@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Presumably this is meant to avoid using Google Streetmaps? The concept of using something Facebook/Meta-owned instead of Google makes no sense to me in this context since Google is okay in terms of quality and shares all the major downsides with Facebook/Meta.

    • Showroom7561@lemmy.caOPEnglish
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      1 year ago

      It’s about the licensing (I believe). Google doesn’t allow you to use their images for other mapping services, while the other ones do.

      That’s why I’d like to at least make these images available to other mappers.

      On a privacy front, both are horrible companies. LOL

    • CowsLookLikeMaps@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      One big benefit of having street-level images is that it makes mapping much easier. In terms of company ownership, yeah they’re both not great companies. However, I’d rather have two evil companies competing than one evil company with a monopoly.

  • bbbhltz@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    1 year ago

    You can always do more than one… There is a blo post about someone who mapped their entire town. Took them some time to do it. They uploaded to Mapillary and another, don’t remember which.