Canada’s Carbon Price Working, So Of Course It’s Being Attacked
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How Do You Defend A Working Carbon Price That's Benefiting Poor People?

Canada’s Carbon Price Working, So Of Course It’s Being Attacked::How Do You Defend A Working Carbon Price That’s Benefiting Poor People?

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    373·
    10 months ago

    Enough for the bottom quintile to be turning the thermostat down in all but one room and worrying about frostbite in the bathroom, but not for everybody else.

    And here is where the author makes a crucial mistake in my opinion. When the poorest are forced to turn down their heating, then the middle class gets spooked they might have to as well in the future. They will vote for scaremongers and climate change deniers, and in the end your noble project of pricing oil out of the daily lifes of people will fail.

      • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        111·
        10 months ago

        Sure, some people get spooked, but that’s mostly due to fear and uncertainty, not due to facts.

        But we see this exact thing happening in Germany right this moment. The Greens got into power as the party with the second most votes, and they get made the boogieman by everyone for everything. Why? Because they moved a ban on new oil and gas heating systems forward, as well as subsidizing carbon-neutral heating systems. They didn’t even introduce the ban, they just moved it forward by two years. They were getting sabotaged from the get-go and are facing constant attacks from all sides. The Greens most likely won’t make it into power the next election cycle. The conservative bootlicker party CDU will get the most votes and the near-to-full Nazi party AfD will get 30% of all votes. And all that backlash, because the Greens dared to do anything about reducing green house gas emissions.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        104·
        10 months ago

        global price instability gouging

        Fixed that for you

        turning the thermostat down one or two degrees saves a lot of money and is healthier and more natural.

        You know what saves even MORE money, is even HEALTHIER and even MORE natural? Instituting price ceilings to stop corporations from using global instability as an excuse for blatant price gouging rather than make it the responsibility of the powerless to compensate for the abuses of the powerful.

        As the price goes up, revenue will go down

        You couldn’t be more wrong

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
            63·
            10 months ago

            My link is about the worldwide trend of corporate price gouging being the main cause of both inflation and record profits. That includes Canadian corporations.

            I’m so hurt that my refutation of your nonsense failed to lift you up to the utmost of enlightened rapture. CRUSHED, I say! 🙄

      • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        71·
        10 months ago

        ignorance about nuclear

        Nuclear is not going to happen. Not without governments deciding to fund plants 100% up front. The economics just don’t make sense.

        Not anymore.

          • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            7·
            10 months ago

            Restarting is fast and cheap.

            Building takes a decade and another one before you break even. How positive are you that you will be able to operate that plant until the end of its economic life?

            Are you willing to bet a few billions on it?

          • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            But they have the preexisting infrastructure and support network for it.