• notanaltaccount@lemmy.world
    201·
    3 days ago

    The packages in Debian are really old. It’s awful.

    I was looking at my xzutils package the other month. “So outdated,” I thought, envying the cool hip trendy Arch users.

  • dan@upvote.au
    131·
    2 days ago

    Debian gives you a choice though. If you want stability, install the stable release. If you want newer packages, install the testing release. Just be sure to get security updates from unstable (sid) if you do that.

    “stable” in this context means that stuff doesn’t change often. It doesn’t mean “stable” as in reliable / never crashes, although Debian is good at that too.

  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
    16·
    3 days ago

    YEARS OF BACKPORTS yet NO REAL WORLD USE FOUND for staying more than ONE VERSION behind

    I have a really old computer that still gets the job done, and just getting up to Bullseye broke it a bit.

    I know, I know, it’s just a meme.

  • mox@lemmy.sdf.org
    213·
    3 days ago

    Tell me you’re an opinionated novice without telling me you’re an opinionated novice.

    (edit:specificity)

  • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyz
    9·
    3 days ago

    It is possible though to get newer versions using flathub or somethibg, right? (I know very little about linux, but I’m thinking of switching from win10 to debian next year.)

    • TechnicallyColors@lemm.eeEnglish
      16·
      3 days ago

      For normal desktop users, yeah Debian Stable + Flatpaks is a winning combo for picking the software that you want to be cutting-edge and leaving the rest to rock-solid stability. Normally Linux distros keep a full ecosystem of packages that interop and depend on each other, but solutions like Flatpak have their own little microcosm of dependencies that can be used independently of the host distro. There are also Debian Backports for when you want native Debian packages that are more cutting-edge but still compiled to work with your older base system. Backports are not available for most packages but sometimes the important ones are available, like the Linux kernel itself. You can also try to compile your own backports, but you’ll be responsible for updating it.

    • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago
      1. No better time than the present
      2. Yes there are ways of acquiring the latest packages even on Debian stable. Usually I end up compiling that stuff myself
      3. If you’re at all unsure if you want to deal with Debian not pushing the latest and greatest updates you do have options such as running Debian Testing or MX Linux (which itself is based on Debian Testing)
      • Blastboom Strice@mander.xyz
        5·
        3 days ago
        1. No better time than the present

        Look, I’m already trying (and kinda succedding) to avoid doing some hard tasks I have to do, don’t push me further into the rabbit hole.😆

        Ugh, now I’m considering doing it in 2 weeks, what have you donee

        • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
          5·
          3 days ago

          Sure thing. Just remember its better to do things you want to do rather than waiting for things to be perfect. Lord knows its something I need reminded of sometimes

        • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
          4·
          3 days ago

          Sweet. Welcome to the cult of Debian.

          We (Debian users and contributors) are inevitable. Our quiet satisfied computing cannot be stopped, only delayed.

          We should consider getting some fancy robes and a few club houses, though. The only thing that can make Debian better is cookies and tea.