• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    most people don’t have a visceral horror of fascism

    No the problem is instead of:

    Fascists vs non-fascist

    We get:

    Fascists vs slightly less fascist

    That’s not good enough to win elections. It’s not a binary choice between 0 and 1, it’s 0.5 and 1.

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        5 months ago

        Uhh, Trump was the protest vote for a lot of people, unfortunately (Defifuckinlutely not me). Also, soooo few people vote, particularly in non-presedential year elections.

        I always strategically vote for the best candidate, and live in a state which allows me to do so without impacting chances of the (more) fascist candidate winning the general election.

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        5 months ago

        That’s not going to stop trump.

        What will stop trump is running a good candidate.

        But Biden and the people he appointed to run the DNC would rather trump win than Biden step aside for the good of the country

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          5 months ago

          You are missing the point…

          Neither side is a good choice. No matter who they run. Deny theme electoral legitimacy

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            5 months ago

            Politics is not a zero sum game. You don’t vote for the good choice. You vote for the less bad choice.

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            5 months ago

            Biden and the people he appointed to head the DNC don’t have to be the people running the DNC…

            We can replace them and have a functional leftwing party again.

            It’s not quick, and it’s not painless, but it’s possible.

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              We already wasted a generation on this circle jerk… If not two tbh

              Why would I ever play their games again?

              Protest vote until third party candidate arrives to capture us or I die in this clown dystopia as is and hope next generation can do better.

              I don’t see any other option here. An

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                5 months ago

                Depending on where you live a protest vote is perfect. If you live in a swing state, you should vote for Biden or Trump. If you live in a solid state like California, voting third party won’t hurt either candidates chances.

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                  5 months ago

                  There is thus assumption I care about “hurting” either one…

                  I am trying to hurt BOTH

                  Deny their legitimacy

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                    5 months ago

                    Oh yes, the “cutting off your nose to spite your face” strategy, well known for its effectiveness.