The three words “I Can’t Breathe” refer to what some police brutality victims, like George Floyd, Eric Garner and Manuel Ellis, said before their untimely deaths at the hands of law enforcement.

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    Because most people who are cops are attracted to that role because of the power over others it gives them; as well as the frequently sycophantic level of respect and admiration.

    “Oh no, we like saving people” doesn’t really fly since you could also be an EMT or Firefighter or doctor, social worker. This is even more true in places with higher academic requirements.

    That the cops around you know the law and abide it better than here is irrelevant.

    When people follow the trend of protesting against police training centers and police officers in general it harms public safety,

    If you’re gonna comment about something, you should probably look at why they’re protesting that something.

    Specifically 2 things. The first is that the local residents aren’t getting a say in if that training center gets to be out there or not- they live outside Atlanta, technically, so they have no representation with the city.

    They’re unhappy because the land is currently a green space park that will be plowed over to create an urban/suburban concrete hellhole.

    Then other thing is what that hellhole will be used for: simulating lethal force being used on citizens. Most probably citizens that look a lot like they do.

    Cops need more training. There’s no question there. They don’t need more combat training.

    The sentiment espoused in ‘ACAB’ comes from people who have never met a “good” cop, but having met an awful lot of “meh” cops trying to gig them on whatever they can and a fair number of bad cops who are actively looking for a reason to shoot them.

    I’d never say ACAB, mostly because I haven’t met every cop.

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        I’m specifically thinking back to January 6th (fuck the assholes who helped the trump supporters)- our country is in a “cold civil war” and the far right are hoarding high powered weapons, a lot of them illegally modified. If they were to attack a large city Hamas style, we would need a lot of combat training to fight back and protect innocent people caught in the crossfire. Also, more combat training means better reaction times for judging if a person means to harm you or not.

        At the time of the attack 1.2k Capitol Police were on duty and on site. They were outnumbered 10-to-1 by insurrectionists trying to get in. more or less. More time at the range wasn’t going to stop jan 6. and of the 8k cops that were in the city on the day… they too were outnumbered 10-to-1 by protestors showing up for Trump’s little pep talk. Not when, for example, they put out the wrong style of baricades and those were easily pressed through, or the Nat Guard wasn’t stationed near by just in case. Or the police planning actually braced for the attack that they had been warned about…

        the attack was meant to happen and it was planned by people who had been put into place to make sure it happened. That wasn’t a training issue.

        It’s actually laughable that you think cops are going to be more than nameless red-shirts against an actual military incursion similar to what Hamas did. cops might pose a somewhat-credible defense if a) they had advanced warning, b) everybody was able to get to the rally point c) civilians were sheltered someplace defensible and d) COPS AREN’T ON THE WRONG SIDE. (when Atlanta PD talks about riots, they mean more like the Floyd riots rather than conservatives getting violent.)

        In the event of such a thing… that’s what the National Guard is for. And Grandpa’s Auto-5, and my own SBR. Or did you think Democrats didn’t also have firearms?

        all of that is besides the point- the reality is that more combat training doesn’t lead to proper responses. quite the opposite- unless that training is done correctly and in proportion to other non-combat training like deescalation tactics and soft skills. for a poignant example, that lady-cop that supposedly meant to use her taser and drew her pistol instead… she spent far too much time practicing her pistol draw and not enough time practicing her tazer draw. Muscle memory being what it is, she drew her pistol.