• trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
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            5 months ago

            I think that in other countries with lots of firearms, they might still be less accessible to people with mental health issues. Especially in contrast to the accessibility of affordable mental health care.

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              5 months ago

              So you’re really saying that there is absolutely no connection whatsoever to the U.S. having a higher suicide rate than every country with illegal firearms and legal firearms? Really?

              Because none of the countries on that list with higher suicide rates than the U.S. have illegal guns and all the ones with illegal guns are lower than that. And you really can’t see a connection there?

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                5 months ago

                If you think that’s what I’m saying you need to work on your reading comprehension. Suicide rates depend on accessibility of easy suicide methods. Firearms are one of the easiest method and them being legal means they’re relatively easily accessible. So yes there is a link to the legality of firearms.

                none of the countries on that list with higher suicide rates than the U.S. have illegal guns

                That’s just bullshit. Illegal firearms are everywhere. There are no countries on this planet without organized crime.

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                  5 months ago

                  Don’t pretend you don’t know what I mean. None of the countries on that list with suicide rates higher than the U.S. had any sort of gun ban. The ones below it all have gun bans. Gun bans clearly reduce suicide.

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                  5 months ago

                  Suicide rates depend on accessibility of easy suicide methods.

                  Illegal firearms are everywhere.

                  Lol, tell us more about how having to find a source of firearms willing to believe you’re not a plant, while depressed or otherwise mentally unstable, while having the cash in amounts that black markets require constitutes as easily accessible. No, really, please type up a narrative that involves those things, the whole process from deciding to end things to finding a source to pulling the trigger. Does it take more than 5 minutes? If so, a bunch of people get past their crisis. Any delay saves people. Any inconvenience saves people. Not sure why you think you understand better than the experts as that looks about as smart as antivax and raw milkers these days.

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      5 months ago

      I have experienced serious suicidal ideation in my life. Standing at the bathroom mirror with a knife to my skin still needed a very difficult step, no matter how much I thought I wanted to do it. With a gun, I would very likely have applied the pressure to injure myself, or worse.

      Sharp metal does not explode into you the same way as a bullet does, and it does not move that fast with as little effort.