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    You kid, but as an Canadian Anglophone, this is what I do any time I have to send an email to someone with a French name with an accented character.

    Yes, I know the special character menu is a thing, but I have shit to do.

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      Try this instead if you have a number pad on your keyboard:

      Hold alt and type 0233 and then release the alt key.

      For my favourite, type : then hold alt and type 0254. 😛

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          I believe you can do this with the on-screen keyboard! If you’re using Windows, I think that can be accessed with super+u (but I haven’t used Windows in a long time so I apologize if I misremembered or if this is no longer accurate).

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        Or better yet, start using the US-international keyboard layout. You press the accent you want (', `, ", ~, …) and the letter you want it on, and boom. Writing normal versions of those symbols requires a space after writing them, but that’s easy to get used to.

        It’s pretty much the default setting in the Netherlands.

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            That sounds easier than remembering the arcane number associated with an accent.

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          I tried this for a bit, until I came into work hungover one Monday and for the life of me couldn’t figure out why my password wasn’t working.

          (May have been the Canadian multilingual layout, I don’t remember)

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        I remember this from working on a DOS PC with a German keyboard. Which has no backslash character, among other characters one need for programming. Having äöü at your fingertips is no help if you need [].

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      Most modern OSs have special bindings for special characters. On a Mac it’s like alt+ e e for é. I think it’s just alt + e on Linux.

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        Don’t you guys have dead keys? On German keyboards there’s a key that does nothing on its own. When you press it twice, you get ‘`’, and when you press that button and ‘e’ you get è.

        Many people confuse this for the apostrophe which brings me into a murderous rage every time I see it.

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        It’s always some bitch named Hélênè.

        (This was accomplished by searching, in no particular order, ‘e accent aigu’, ‘Pokemon wikipedia’, and ‘e with pointy hat’)

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          H̴̢̰̙̬͆́́̊̑́̽͐̐é̸͓̼̋́̍ͅľ̵̨̛̲̠͎̠̮̮̙̠͕̖̖̥̰͚́̈͌͒̆̈̆ê̶̘̘̘̮̙̪̦̹̟̩̂̋̀̊̊̈́̐̍̈́͗̒̃̽͐̕n̷͍̺̻̱̰̳̦͒̊͂̄̽͑̍̃̂͗͆͘͜è̴̦͚̮͎̖̖̩̻͉͋̀̌̅̒̇͌ is such a b̴e̷a̸u̴t̷i̴f̵u̷l̴ n̵̡̢̡̨̨̢̡̧̡̧̧̨̢̨̧̨̢̧̨̡̨̧̢̛̗̗̻̬͈̗̖͈̙̫̠͕̥̲̲̙͕͕̣̞͉̦̙̗̻̥̝̼̬͉͚̮͖̻̘͉͕̜̟̗̫̣̰͎̩͚̼̤͉͇̟̙͍͕̤̩͙̳̥̗͚̼̱͓̝̱̗̬̜̳̳̼̬͎̥̺̞̦͔̘̤̟̼̻̲͕̳̤̯̙̤̗͕̼̰͇̙̟̖̪̱̝͖̭̺̼̫̣̳̮̺̦͇̝̯̠̟̼̫̘̫͔̤̗͕̖̟̲̳͓̼̖̘̦̩̟̹̹̝̻̮̯̗̜͇̳̯͇̥͙͔̝̠̞̱̲̭̲̥̳̻̲͙̙̘͚̳̬̱͔̫̩̠͙͎͇̟͕̠͍̠̠̮̭̱̗͇͓̥̪̥͓͉͚͓͍̱̝̦̯̹̠͙̩̖̜̘̞̻̟͙̗͉̙̮̻̦̱̪͚̠͉̙̱͍̘͉͎͙̺̯͔̖̿͌̋͒̔̄̍̽̀̏͂̀̀̅̊́͂̈̐̓́̀̂̈́̈́̓͑̎̒͆̀͑͒̎̈̂̈̊̈̏̎́́͋͋̀̉̊̈́́̑̓̓̉̂̌̾̓̂̐̾̈́̊́̿̀́̇̂͂̀̐̆̆̽̂̍̎̔͊͗̓̏͂̄̿͑̽͑̃̈́̄̾͂͗̋́͋͘͘̚̕̕͘͜͜͜͜͜͜͝͝͝͠͠͝͝ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅą̵̢̡̡̨̧̢̧̧̡̨̛̛͎̪̣̜̣̘̻͙͈͈̥̘͚̼̗̩̮̠̜͉͎͍͍̝̭̹̞̜̰̦̣̙̟̟̩̮͙͖̥͓͔̝͙͍̟̠͙̮͎̹̳͖̰̪̼̙̻͓͔͍̭̞̟̯̤̩̲͈͇̳̝͔̩̮̣̠̥̖̺͕̟̩̣͖͍͇̠͖̏̿̊͊̀̄̈́̓́͗̌͋̈́̓̔̃̄͘͜͜͜m̴̛̙͚̭̪̼̯̝͇̞̹̼̫͉̬̖̩̥͓̏̎̅̇̂̄̀̓̌̂͋̓̏̋̊̑̒̊͒̂͛́̒͋̄͋͑̋͛͋͛̒̊͒́̀̄̀̓̊̀̌̉̑̎̽͂͋̍̓̿̊͗̌̋̍̄͌͑̀̿͂̌̾̓̀͋̊̋̃́̊́̃̃͐̄̀̅̌͌́̓̈́̄͋̂͂̆̈͌̀̈́̎̋̐͌͂̈́̑̉̑̎̽̎͛̑̏͛̌̄̈́̄̐̿̇̎̾̇̓̍̄͒̓͛̆̍̔̾͗̾̀̊̐̂͆͂̏̾́̃́͒̒̈́̃̄̏͂̄̊̋͑̀̒̐͗́̾̈́̿̏͆͗̓̏́̏͂͒̿͊̚̕̕͘̕̚̚̕̚̚͘͘̚͘̚̕͠͠͝͠͝͠͝͝e̵̡̡̢̨̨̡̢̨̢̨̧̡̢̡̢̢̨̢̢̧̨̨̯͔̻͚͚̥̠̗͍̫̩̞̮̣̫̹̙̰͔̙̭̲̻̭̦̫̹͖̥͎͖̳͎̠̥̙̗̖̖̳̫̖͇̲̗̥͖̙̜͓̺͖̥͎̗̟̹͖͖̖͙̞̥͓̦̙͍̬̣̫̹͔̣̻̭̘͈͍͚̲̝̹̠͕̣̪̜̘̝̞͔͙̺̯̘̹̩̳̳̮͖̣͕͔̟̬͈̻̥͚̟̰͍͈̻͙̦͙͉͔͔̣̟̬̤̞̭͖̰̣̦͔̫̥̣̪͎̺͓̲̠̬̣̘̗̠͎̩͎͇̥͔̫̖̦̭͓̙̦̪̫̼̲̲̩̫̪̟͈̥̙̞͎͕̮̗̻̙̱̲͓̜̪̺̰͓̲͉̘͔̝͇͈̰̹̤̤͓̪̰̺̝͉̺̠̠̹͈͉̠͙͌͊̈́̓͋̔̓͗̔̀͊͗̈́̅̒̌̎̔̓̅̇̈͋͐̒̈́̃̓̀̄̂̈́̾̃͘͘̚̕͜͜͜͜͜͜͝͠͠͝ͅͅ

          Also

          Recommend text replacement software if ever a name/word comes up frequently :)

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      We (Canadians) actually have two layouts to type French characters. The modern Canadian multilingual layout, and the traditional “French (Canada)” layout. As an older French speaking Canadian, I prefer the traditional layout but both work. You can even type English words with these.

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    I used to do this, but then I changed to Hat. It’s increased my productivity significantly and saves me multiple hours each week.

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        Set a key as a modifier key and program the character provider function in your text editor to to give the corresponding capital letter of whatever key is pressed, in case the modifier key is down.
        Even better, you can use the same modifier key with number keys and other symbol keys to give an alternative symbol, which you could also indicate on the keyboard.
        Let’s call this the Shif… oh wait, what year is this?

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    I do this when writing λ, Δ, Φ, etc. in a document on a computer I don’t own or when on my phone. It’s genuinely faster than scrolling through Word’s symbol list, for example.

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    when I was younger, instead of just using shift, i used to press the caps lock key and then turn it off lol

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    Used to work with someone who would recycle characters. Like, instead of typing a letter on the keyboard (which had many keys specifically for this purpose), they would go looking for that letter in some text they were going to discard and Ctrl-X Ctrl-V it.

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    I work in IT and I have coworkers that use caps lock to capitalize single letters, like the beginning of a sentence. It hurts a bit every time I see it.

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      Reminds me of the bash.org quote that went something like:

      User1 joins channel

      User1: HELLO EVERYONE!

      Mod: Try hitting the caps lock key

      User1: OMG THANK YOU THAT’S SO MUCH EASIER!!!

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      I work in IT and I have coworkers that call the emergency support line on Saturday at 7 in the morning because “this bullshit system won’t let me log in”, then I remote in and it says in big letters right at the center of the login screen CAPSLOCK ENABLED.

      I won’t complain though, that way I make an extra 50€ (1h minimum billing time with weekend bonus) in under a minute.

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        I think this kind of thing is inevitable due to change blindness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_blindness

        You don’t get hit with the change blindness because A: you’re looking at the situation with fresh eyes instead of sleep deprived pre-coffee eyes that just want to get through the login screen to get some work done

        And B, because you know how to interpret every bit of visual information on the screen and thus think of it as important. I mean, think of all the times you looked at someone else’s computer and their desktop background was their kid or their dog. That’s a huge change in visual terms, but it’s a tiny change in terms of importance, so you dismiss it and get used to it immediately. You file it as unimportant and ignore it. Your filing of stuff is correct because you actually understand it. But an average user will file every single thing they don’t understand as important, and also many things they do understand but don’t care about.

        Disk mount error. Resolution not recommended. Are you experiencing interruptions? Find out why! Buy boner pills now! It looks like you’re trying to write a word document, would you like help? It’s a sunny day, 22 degrees C. USERS APPDATA ROAMING. Janice from accounting wants to show you her baby pictures. Back up your files to OneDrive now. You’re overdue for an antivirus scan. This flash drive may be corrupted, would you like to repair it? The program crashed, reporting the problem to Microsoft. Solitaire. A Nigerian prince needs your money. Please verify your phone number.

        These messages all have varying levels of importance, but they all demand the user’s attention in a way most people can’t tell apart. The user is a bald monkey relying on stimulus-sorting firmware that’s hundreds of thousands of years out of date. So the occipital lobe just files every one of those messages under the same label: noise.

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    Presumably the original post was made facetiously, but since a lot of people are talking about special characters in the comments:

    I can’t confirm anymore, but besides all the alt shortcuts in the comments, in Windows it used to be that you could open the Character Map from the Start menu, then either copy any character from a chart or select the character to see its alt code.

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          Just looking at a random selection of two laptops and five keyboards here and they all have the 4 $ € key marked. The only keyboard I can find that doesn’t is the Windows On-Screen Keyboard.

          Although looking at laptops on shop websites, a lot of them have just 4 $ so maybe that is going out of fashion? Samsung yes, Asus no, Dell no, HP no.

          Actually the Windows On-Screen Keyboard does show € but only after you press Alt-Gr…

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        You sure you’re not thinking of the Pound symbol (£)? The Euro symbol (€) would have to be a third thing, if it’s there at all.

        I’m not British and don’t know their keyboard layout, so maybe you’re right, but I would expect £ to be accessible and € less so.

        Edit: oh, you were right. £ is Shift+3, € is AltGr+4.

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    This is what I used once when my keyboard broke and some keys stopped working. Even ordering the new keyboard was difficult when I couldn’t type my delivery address properly.

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        Back in my day we didn’t have no fancy on screen keyboard built into windows! We copy and pasted from a random readme.txt file when our keyboards broke! (Or were taken away by our parents thinking it would make the computer inoperable, haha)

        It is a really nice feature now though.

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      There’s something a bit upsetting about how finding it online is faster and easier than using an application purpose-built for this purpose (Character Map)

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        That application was made before the turn of the fucking millennium and it has a bad UI design?

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          I know, right?

          For real though, Linux Mint comes with what seems to be a clone of it, name included, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen other clones of it integrated into writing software. There have been plenty of opportunities to improve on the formula, and the experience is improved slightly, it’s just not enough.

          Edit: turns out the one in Mint is GNOME Character Map.

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              I admit I’ve never used it, but it seems to require you to know in advance the key presses to get the character you want, so it’s not going to help if it’s a character you only use rarely.

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        I used to google for it, but now I ask chatgpt. Thats probably way worse resource-wise, right?

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          I’m not sure about your specific setup, but usually on mobiles you can hold your finger on a letter to see variants/accent marks.

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            It depends on the keyboard. I’ve used some in the past that tied that feature to the current language

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                Sigh, it used to be a good piece of software…before Microsoft bought it. I’m not a fan of gboard though. I want something that is very customizable.

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                  Samsung Keyboard literally lets you design your own keyboard layout in a surprisingly robust and rich way. I don’t know if it’s available on non-Samsung phones though, and I can’t wholeheartedly recommend it because it has a bunch of flaws and quirks. For example, every once in a while it seems to do select all + copy + paste, without you going anything besides typing normally. This can scroll the text to an inconvenient place, and remove special formatting. On YouTube if you’re replying to a comment it destroys the username you’re replying to, replacing the special highlight with just their name in plain text.

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                  I moved away from Swiftkey for the same reason and currently I’m pretty happy with what Heliboard has to offer. You can download it from F-Droid.

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      If you got compose key (linux, mac, windows with third party software), then those are trivial:

      ë ñ ũ ü, and even åâăāãȧaąàáæª₂2²

      Goes like Compose e ", Compose n ~, etc

      But a thing to note that resulting letters are generic and not region-specific,

      like that ë (U+00EB LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS)

      is not the same as ё (U+0451 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IO)

      Which might trigger spellcheckers or not even be displayed in certain fonts

      There’s also apparently some weird combos like Compose+:) for and Compose+CCCP for , but no easily available keys for greek letters unless you tweak configs…

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        Thanks for the advice, but it’s not important enough for me to do it.

        I barely use any of these letters anyway.