• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Biden said in his speech that the capabilities of Hamas and the threat to Israel have already been eliminated.

    Thing is Hamas is not just its armed wing. It’s also a political party, with that comes a government apparatus (as in bureaucrats), and it’s also a charity. It is, after all, a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot and, well, ask the Egyptians how hard it is to root out the Muslim Brotherhood.

    If with “total destruction of Hamas’ capabilities” they mean the whole thing then that’s just another way to say that they want to keep on going forever. Biden OTOH simply seems to have referred to military capability. Israel, also the more moderate factions, will likely insist on at least dismantling the government apparatus and TBH plenty of Palestinians feel the same. Things are murky because of the war but Hamas rule was not exactly popular, charity nonwithstanding.

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      6 months ago

      and, well, ask the Egyptians how hard it is to root out the Muslim Brotherhood.

      You mean the Muslim Brotherhood whose presidential candidate got democratically elected by Egypt? The President who then got couped with the help of the US to install the Sisi regime that is worse than the Mubarak regime, which sparked the Arab spring in the first place?

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        6 months ago

        The Egyptian military doesn’t need US aid to launch a coup. Sure the military will have made sure that the US continues to consider Egypt as an ally but that’s about it. Politically both are taking potshots at each other.

        Mursi was democratically elected, yes. Quoting Wikipedia:

        Within a short period, serious public opposition developed to President Morsi. In late November 2012, he issued a temporary constitutional declaration granting himself the power to legislate without judicial oversight or review of his acts, on the grounds that he needed to “protect” the nation from the Mubarak-era power structure. He also put a draft constitution to a referendum that opponents complained was “an Islamist coup”. These issues — and concerns over the prosecutions of journalists, the unleashing of pro-Brotherhood gangs on nonviolent demonstrators; the continuation of military trials; and new laws that permitted detention without judicial review for up to 30 days, and impunity given to Islamist radical attacks on Christians and other minorities — brought hundreds of thousands of protesters to the streets starting in November 2012. During Morsi’s year-long rule there were 9,000 protests and strikes.

        Is Sisi a champion of democracy? No. But also he was elected, and he’s legitimately popular. Morsi rode to power on an illusion about Brotherhood politics, once they unveiled their true colours Egyptians quickly decided that they’d rather have secular than religious authoritarians in power.

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      6 months ago

      If with “total destruction of Hamas’ capabilities” they mean

      That’s just my paraphrase.

      The actual wording used by Israel is “destruction of the military and governing capabilities of Hamas”. Both of which arguably have already been destroyed.