• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    And if I offered to buy the Brooklyn Bridge for a dollar, I’ve made an offer on it…

    Just not a serious offer that has any chance of being accepted.

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      5 months ago

      Clearly you didn’t read the article. Your opinions are consistently baseless.

      The first phase would last six weeks, and includes “a full and complete cease-fire and withdrawal” of Israeli forces from all populated areas of Gaza, the release of a number of hostages, including women, the elderly, and the wounded in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

      It’s the most fair agreement I’ve seen yet. There’s a decent chance of acceptance.

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          A ceasefire and end of war are not the same. The point of a ceasefire is to negotiate the end of war. Open and documented discussion will bring transparency to the agenda of each side. Israel cannot request expansion with the sanctions Biden restored on Palestinian territory. Israel will be forced to form agreements within international law or they’ll provide Biden with documented justification for amendment of support.

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        It’s only 6 weeks. It’s hard to justify killing prisoners, returning them to the killing fields brings opportunities. Don’t talk about “fair”, it’s a 6 weeks break in the genocide so they can continue bombings later without a chance of hitting their own held hostage there. A “fair” deal would be a 6 months ceasefire which would include 6 months of further negotiations to completely end the violence. 6 weeks is just an opportunity to rearrange and repair their army and airforce for the second destructive wave. There is no “fair” when one side consists of terrorist fighters among millions of civilians and the other side consists of fascists wanting to wipe them out completely. There is no right, only wrong and mass amounts of innocent victims.

  • cyd@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Don’t sweat it, Bibi, it’s just 6 weeks, then the killing resumes!

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      5 months ago

      Oh don’t you worry your little ass Bibi we all know the fighting won’t stop even if there IS a ceasefire agreement, they’ll find a way to break it and kill some more women and children

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    5 months ago

    It is practically the same proposal that Hamas accepted a few weeks back and was rejected by Israel, only to then storm into Rafah and commit more heinous atrocities with the support of the US.

    Trying to flip the script now is a shameless attempt to portray genocidal Israel once again as the good guys, who graciously decided to not continue their “self defense” against evil savages.

    And quite frankly Biden this is not enough. We need guarantees that Israel won’t storm in again and continue their genocide. We need guarantees that Gaza and the Westbank will be rebuild. We need guarantees that Israeli war criminals will be surrendered to the ICC especially the ones in the government. We need guarantees that all settlements in the Westbank will be destroyed and the land will be given back. We need a recognition of a Palestinian state as full member to the UN by the US.

    We cannot accept going back to the status quo of slow ethnic cleansing and slow genocide by the terrorist state of Israel.

  • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    Missing from the headline:

    “In Phase 2, would include the release of all remaining living hostages, including male soldiers in exchange for a full Israeli withdrawal from Gaza. As long as Hamas lives up to its commitments, the temporary cease-fire would become “the cessation of hostilities permanently,” Biden said.”

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    Oh nice I was wondering when the weekly Biden gaslight would drop.

    Israel just tweeted that they want to make clear won’t stop until “they believe Hamas is fully destroyed” aka infinite Genocide.

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    The US government just started Chapter 2: What to do on Day 3 of a conflict.

    When this eventually dies out, I bet they try take credit.