This is the fourth or fifth one I’ve read about today. The kids are effecting change. I love it.
Thank you for spelling effecting correctly.
Isn’t effect a noun, affect a verb? Am I supposed to discern which in other ways?
To “affect” a change would be to alter the change itself, for example if the university had already been reviewing its portfolio then the protesters might be affecting the change by making it happen more quickly.
To “effect” a change would be to cause the change in the first place.
This is one of the few oddities of the English language that I struggle with constantly. It seems like, as a native speaker, most of the other ones just “feel” or “sound” right, but I haven’t been able to nail that down with effect/affect for some reason
The trouble is that both words have a verb sense and a noun sense.
The noun sense of affect is something like “mood” or “emotion” and isn’t used often, while the noun sense of effect is “thing that happened (because of some cause)” and is a rather common word.
The verb sense of affect is “to cause something to happen (to something)” and is a pretty common word, while the verb sense of effect is more like “to make something be true” as in “effecting change” above.
The mnemonic I use is from dungeons and dragons, some spells are “mind-affecting effects” meaning they change minds and they’re caused by the spell being cast.
If I use my Persuasion skill to help someone think their way through a problem, is that a “mind-effecting affect”?
These are full-grown adults in university. They are not kids.
I don’t think I’d consider most 18 year old “full grown adults”
Old enough to be sent to die and kill innocent non white people for profit so they are old enough to be adults.
The vast, vast majority of 18 year olds are not in the military, and it’s really weird to consider all 18 year olds adults because a tiny fraction of them are soldiers
I never once said they all were in the military or that them being in the military made them adults. I said if we consider them adult enough to be able to do that, then we need to just consider them adults in general.
Yeah, and I think that’s stupid. It doesn’t match reality. Just because 18 happens to be the age at which some policy says you’re allowed to be a solider, doesn’t magically make it the age that teens become adults.
And I think you are wrong.
it’s like violence is the response of an idiot or something
Sacramento State’s updated policy states that it “does not have any direct investments in these areas” right now but, in accordance with students’ demands, its investment portfolios will “remain free of such direct investments.”
Students: We’re protesting until our school stops investing in stuff that’s bad!
University: Uh, we already don’t.
Students: We did it! We freed Palestine!
I mean, you jest, but a lot of the time, all you can do in this world is limit your own contribution to the problem
That and vote to regulate wrongdoings. It sounds so obvious and yet somehow we’re losing that battle.
I don’t think the students though that divesting would save all the Palestinians. I mean, I am sure one person did, but that is what happens when you have a large group of people. I think they just wanted to apply pressure against Israel where they could.
I think it is based and probably the most effective thing they could do to stop the genocide.
Divesting is a step, but it just allows them to remove personal responsibility for the death/suffering. (Which matches the latent cultural narcissism)
It does not actually stop anything, it may delay the scheduled future.
Meanwhile bombs and bullets already in production will go down range.
Divesting is a step, but it just allows them to remove personal responsibility for the death/suffering.
Uh, no. Divesting from South Africa had a big effect on the end of Apartheid. It’s just not enough to do much by itself. But it is enough to push it over the top.
Sure, it took years.
The Palestinians have weeks to months.
Wow, I guess listening to the protesters instead of calling cops on them is crazy 🙄
what if they listened but still disagreed with the protestors?
Then at least they should be able to say why they disagree exactly instead of “aNtiSeMiTiSm”
But would that change the outcome? I assume not really.
Are you asking if direct action campaigns work against the powerful that disagree? Yes, yes they do.
Yeah that’s… that’s the joke
You know what, honestly, I can’t blame the above commenter. Have you seen some of the trash headlines are made of these days?
Maybe if it were the National Review, Daily Caller, NYPost, or something like that.
It’s Jezebel, which tells us nothing except that I’m surprised they’re still in business.
Ok listen, I’m all in favor of Israel knocking it the f*ck off and students protesting, but this article is written with a very specific skew.
Last week, Columbia University summoned an army of heavily armed, riot gear-clad police officers to attack its own students for peacefully protesting Israel’s war on Gaza and the university’s financial ties to Israel.
Couple of notes here.
- It has evolved to a non peaceful protest. Some neo-nazi assholes were physically engaging with Jewish students. That’s not cool.
- A good number of nom-students showed up and we’re the ones causing the problems.
- Columbia called the local police to disperse a situation that was getting unsafe fast, because a university isn’t really qualified to do that. Which is the right call IMO. It’s the NYPD that choose riot gear.
Should it have been handled differently? Yes. Was the school dumb? Yes. We really don’t need this slanted BS news to see that.
This is some of the quotes from a Newsweek article:
One video posted on X, formerly Twitter, showed a masked protester outside the university’s gates appearing to chant: “Go back to Poland!”
Another video showed a man telling Jewish students outside the campus gates that “the 7th of October is going to be every day for you.”
Devolved into non peaceful protests?
You got a source there, buddy?
I live nearby, I walked by.
I think (I don’t know for sure) that the students were peaceful, it looks like it got co-opted by a few loud neo-nazis who were being assholes.
My thing is the original article was pretty off.
trust me bro
Got it, that’s your source?
