• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    Israel literally told Gazans to go to Rafah to be safe. They said it was a safe zone.

    Now they’re supposed to leave Rafah.

    You might ask where Israel thinks Gazans are supposed to go. The answer is- nowhere. They’re supposed to die.

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        I’m sure they wouldn’t spare any iron dome missiles if the Palestinians went as high as the radars would pick.

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      No. They “need” to push them to the sea for certain religious sects to be satisfied.

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      Israel literally told Gazans to go to Rafah to be safe. They said it was a safe zone.

      And the IDF was operating elsewhere, not entering Rafah at the time.

      Now they’re supposed to leave Rafah.

      Yes, that’s how it works. It’s like how sometimes during road construction, the construction crew might route you into a different traffic lane. Doesn’t mean that lane will remain safe to drive on forever.

      You might ask where Israel thinks Gazans are supposed to go. The answer is- nowhere. They’re supposed to die.

      Now this is just plain false, since it doesn’t look like you actually bothered reading any details about it. Israel did in fact tell them where to go.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        And then Israel will bomb where it told them to go just like it bombed Rafah after telling them to go there. Or is that just Hamas propaganda?

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          Terrorist group Hamas is shooting rockets from there, so of course Israel isn’t going to ignore it completely. If Hamas stopped hiding behind civilians, the entire area would have been left alone.

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            Why does Hamas hiding amongst civilians justify killing those civilians?

            How many people have been killed by those rockets vs. how many children killed by the IDF?

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              How many people have been killed by those rockets vs. how many children killed by the IDF?

              I’ll remind you that Hamas recruits children. Is an unfortunate situation where the children and terrorists counts have some overlap.

              Also, why is it always about kill counts? Are you saying it would be more okay with if Hamas successfully killed more people?

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                Why is it kill counts? Because over 13,000 children have been killed in this war. I suppose you’ll claim all 13,000 of them were Hamas soldiers. Even the babies.

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                  Sure, put words in my mouth. You’ve yet to answer why you’re justifying rockets fired at Israeli civilians just because they’re mostly being stopped, while condemning rockets fired at Hamas.

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            Don’t lie to us, and stop lying to yourself.

            For over 100 years zionists have been terrorizing and committing genocide there. They killed or pushed out the Muslims, they disenfranchised the Christians until they left. They’re currently clamping down on Jewish people who don’t believe in Zionism.

            They have always pushed. Every treaty, every agreement. Every legal attempt to stop the violence has been ignored, or discarded under paper thin or faulty pretenses. Terror is often the last resort of a people who have no other options. (Unless western nations give you billions of dollar in weapons and force other nations to recognize your presence, then you can call it statecraft!)

            For zionists and for Israel, the goal has always been to paint the land red with non-believer blood and to destroy every bit of culture that isn’t ‘theirs.’
            That’s why they bomb mosques and universities. That’s why they bomb infrastructure. That’s why the West Bank has been split into tiny enclaves. They’re choking the life out of the land so they can plant the seeds of their hollow society on barren soil.

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              That’s great fiction you’re writing there. Too bad you show no actual understanding of the region. It’s almost as if you get your info from outlets peddling anti-Israel hate, since their governments failed to wipe it and all the people in it off the map repeatedly.

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                Israel has always been the one with the highest body count and the greatest number of ceasefire violations and greatest amount of land stolen.

                Are Israeli newspapers peddling anti Israel hate too? Are they?

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              I never said Hamas was not in Rafah. In fact that’s the opposite of what I said. I did say it was designated a safe zone. Now they’re moving the safe zone to a new area and the people with it.

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                Interesting. Can you also explain why israel is currently bombing that new “safe zone”

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                  Because Hamas terrorists are firing rockets out of it. Could you explain to me why they’re doing that and risking the their own citizens there?

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        Yes, that’s how it works. It’s like how sometimes during road construction, the construction crew might route you into a different traffic lane. Doesn’t mean that lane will remain safe to drive on forever.

        That’s a bad analogy. The construction crew direct you to a safe place while they repair the rest of the road. There’s nothing being repaired in Gaza. It’s just being systematically destroyed.

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              Or claims to. I am not sure that he’s a true believer so much as an authorization who wants to hold onto power and escape justice by pulling the hatred/religious extremism lever that helped him get where he is (he literally marched calling for Rabin’s death prior to the assassination).

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            Riiiight … removing terrorists like all those children in a playground the IDF bombed with precision bombs the other day.

            Your “argument” is just a variant of the good old “All Palestinians are Terrorists” hasbara propaganda slogan.

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              So nobody there are terrorists? They’re all innocent civilians that some of which just happen to have rockets.

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                Only a Nazi-level extreme racist would think that “there are terrorists in Gaza” excuses bombing a specific playground full of children.

                Normal human beings don’t mix the racist idea of guilt by association with such a cold calous disregard for the lives of children.

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        It’s like how sometimes during road construction

        Robert Moses drives a six lane highway through your neighborhood and you all get to eat shit and die.