• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Bruh…

    Socialism is economic policy…

    The economic policy of those countries is socialism.

    They are also democracies.

    Like if I asked what kind of car you had you could say “Honda” or “a red Honda”.

    Their not two different answers because one included unrelated information.

    If someone asks what kind of government they have, “democratic socialism” would be correct, because only giving one of the main axises wouldn’t tell the full story.

    But since we’re talking economic systems, the democratic part is superfluous

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      6 months ago

      Socialism requires that the workers have democratic control over the means of production. Nordic countries are not socialist, the working class isn’t in control there.

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      6 months ago

      Socialism does not refer to welfare states, but control of the Means of Production by the Proletariat.

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      6 months ago

      I don’t know why you’re doubling down on your confident incorrectness when you don’t even have Wikipedia-level understanding. The very first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

      Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

      And obviously the question who the state allows to own the means of production is very much political. Economics is politics.