Here are a few discord comments about the situation from the Helldivers 2 discord:

  • Crampon@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Their business plan is forcing people to create a free account and shut people out from sales?

    Being an Executive in a huge Corp must be the easiest job in the world. How can you come up with this idea, and get paid for it?

  • atmur@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    It’s insane to me that this is a hill Sony is willing to die on. So much goodwill to throw away just to collect a bit more data on users.

    Just remember, if they’re willing to enforce this nonsense, you can be sure that there will be more nonsense to come. “Sorry everyone, Sony decided we need lootboxes! But our team is on the side of the players!”

    I hate modern AAA games, I’m gonna go try out that new Stardew Valley update.

    • whereisk@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Someone high up will probably lose a lot of face if it doesn’t go through. I’m assuming someone looked at numbers in a spreadsheet and asked why on earth do they have a huge pool of data they can’t legally use to enhance their ad targeting - when the developers said it might be a problem with our users they said fuck them, just ram it through. How do they backpedal without looking like out of touch idiots?

    • Focie@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      It’s not even much data at all. A game dev friend of mine took a look at what is shared through Steam’s own API, and it’s just a unique ID basically verifying that the steam account belongs to that steam user. The worst they can do with that is ask if the user already owns this or that game, likely just from the same publisher.

      They probably just want the ability to better ban people if they are griefing other players (or make sure people can’t cheat their way to more super credits)

      The whole thing is such a nothing burger from sony’s part, it makes it even more absurd that they’re doing this!

      • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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        7 months ago

        I’ve seen this said a few times. Armed with the steam id already, what does having the PSN account improve on?

        If they can get a new steam account, they can get a new anything account.

    • whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Does goodwill even really mean anything? I keep seeing the arguments that say “X company is cashing in their goodwill” etc. But I honestly don’t think the average person who plays AAA games give a shit about a company’s track record. If that was the case Nintendo would’ve bankrupted by now. People will probably preorder the ultimate super deluxe edition of the PS6 or god of war as soon as sony announces them.

  • Eggyhead@kbin.run
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    7 months ago

    Sony really wanting become a player on PC and realizing they’re a console company.

  • malchior@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    A Japanese business making stupid business decisions? Why I never…

    Unfortunately, this will probably scuttle the game, if another company can get a similar game out in a reasonable time frame it’s probably GG.

  • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    Wow, they’re really burning down all of that good will, huh? It’s like a car crash, you can’t help but to keep looking at it.

    • Zenchyi@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Im totally with arrowhead here. I wasnt aware of PSN being banned in countries either and at least theyre trying their best to make it right again. I dont think theyre burning goodwill, sony is though.

      • JakenVeina@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        I’m with Arrowhead as well, none of this shit is coming from them, it’s coming from Sony. The most you can criticize them for is partnering with Sony in the first place.

  • naticus@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Spitz isn’t a dev, they’re a Community Manager, and a tone deaf one at that.

    • EchoCT@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Community manager or not,he still has a Vested interest in the games success. I think this is pretty clearly a Sony being shitty thing. I hope they are trying to find a better answer because I like Helldivers but I’m also not willing to deal with Sonys bullshit.

      • naticus@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        My saying they’re a CM isn’t my giving them a pass. But dev vs CM is an important distinction regardless. A CM should know how to address people publicly and not incite even more rage by belittling people’s concerns. The only apology they gave so far was the most non-apology you could imagine too.

        • Zekas@lemmy.world
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          7 months ago

          Could you please whine another paragraph about something if possible even more trivial?

    • Enkrod@feddit.de
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      7 months ago

      Bullshit, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia are EU countries, people bought HD2 and now can’t legally play anymore. Steam has already issued refunds to some.

      • voxel@sopuli.xyz
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        7 months ago

        huh i thought this was limited to regions like russia, belorus, china, etc but yeah fuck sony/arrowhead then

        • Unkn8wn69@monero.town
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          7 months ago

          Cool that you think other human beings shouldn’t be able to get content only because they were born in some arbitrary location on earth.

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            7 months ago

            I’m very strongly against anything being sold in russia, with sold being the keyword. they should ideally be completely financially isolated

            and well bans in countries like china are imposed by the country/govt itself rather than the developers/publishers