• peteypete420@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I realize that having it done as a newborn I’ll never really know, but mutilated? As an adult iv seen and played with those flesh danglers. Listen we are all humans and beautiful, but fucking hell I’m happy with mine. They are like one of those weird deep sea critters you see on nat geo or sciencememes.

    True, if I ever have a baby I’ll make the argument to the mom we SHOULD give the kid the choice… but I know that as a poor adult I would never do it now. But am happy it’s been done.

    I hate to sound like a “Liberal” talking about Palestine, but this may be a somewhat nuanced situation.

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      3 months ago

      The definition of mutilate is “inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on.”

      Circumcision being the forced removal of the most sensitive part of the males genitals, that literally disfigures it, I feel like saying it’s mutilation is just the correct use of the word.

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        3 months ago

        Disfigure means it’s left worse off. It’s literally more healthy and generally seen as more aesthetically pleasing. So no, that’s not the correct use of the word. That’s like saying cutting an umbilical cord is disfiguring lol.

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      3 months ago

      I’m curious, why are you “happy it’s been done”?

      I live in a country where we don’t perform this procedure out of tradition/religion, or at least not in the majority. I’m only aware of it being done for specific medical pathologies such as phimosis.

      Because I kind of agree with the sentiment that performing unwarranted surgeries on someone that is unable to voice his (non-)consent is an ethical problem. Even more so with excisions, which always are drastically and usually irrevocably diminishing the body.

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      3 months ago

      i mean listen if it counts as female genital mutilation for females, it counts as genital mutilation for males. I see no reason it shouldn’t.

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      3 months ago

      As someone who is circumcised and chose not to circumcise their son, I’m seeing that circumcision has a lot of benefits. My son’s foreskin has always been too tight and won’t still fully retract at 7 years old. We have to put cream on it every night. It needs a lot more thorough washing every day or else it gets discharge all over it. The care and maintenance on an uncircumcised penis is like 1000x that of a circumcised one. I never knew any difference, so I’m not sure what the downsides of having a circumcised one is.

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        3 months ago

        That’s not normal. I have never had such problems. No special cleaning and cream needed. No smegma. Just pull it back and wash it like everything else. You should seek a doctor. It sounds like a medically induced circumcision would be a good idea.

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          3 months ago

          We see doctors regularly and are trying to manage the problem without circumcision. You may have had problems when you were a kid too and just don’t remember it, it’s fairly common.

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        3 months ago

        Why would it need to retract at 7 years old? It really only needs to retract once you start to have sex.

        Stop messing with your son’s penis for god’s sake.

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            3 months ago

            I’m not eating from the tip of my penis.

            Phimosis is completely physiological/natural for younger boys and actually helps to protect the head of the penis against infections.

            Source

            If it needs washing, you can just spray water from the shower head into the opening.

            But it’s also kinda like the vagina for girls. It doesn’t really need washing or special treatment unless it’s infected.

            In any case, messing with the penis of your son and making them feel unhygienic or like their foreskin is a problem is likely much more damaging than a little bit of smegma.

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              3 months ago

              I’m not eating from the tip of my penis.

              yes, and you aren’t doing the same from the nail gunk you accumulate i assume? Then we’re on the same page.

              Literally just clean it like you do the rest of your body and you have no problems.

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          3 months ago

          Pediatricians have timelines for these sort of things. And it can get infected under there.