Proton is great but I do feel wary from putting all my eggs in one basket again.
Same, staying with bitwarden for now
Bitwarden also has better features for now like more solid URL matching (handy if you have a bunch of services on subdomains of the same domain name).
Hey what type of URL matching do you use for achieving this? BW suggest me all the entries for a domain and doesn’t differentiate sub domains.
I use “Host” matching to only target specific subdomains.
You have to set each entry under the same domain to to match against “host” and you’re set.
I don’t have Bitwarden installed right now but I believe they had a parameter called „starts with“ or something? That has always been solid for me.
Same, staying with keepass for forever
Same. Although the simplelogin integration seems nice.
I discovered not too long ago that Bitwarden has the same integration! https://bitwarden.com/blog/add-privacy-and-security-using-email-aliases-with-bitwarden/
You need to configure it on each device though, and you need to generate an API key first.
I was just about to write this… Proton is cool, but I only use mail from them. All my other services are independent from each other, and soon I will be self hosting most of them.
I’m switching from privatevpn to protonvpn just for the port forwarding with wireguard within a terminal, no stupid GUI app. Quite pleased with the service, they do VPN well.
Just give me a Linux client for proton drive please. I’m tired of manually uploading/downloading files 😐
Yeeeeees. If you’re orienting your company as the privacy-alternative it’d be great to emphasize support for the main privacy-oriented OS. I get that developers don’t grow on trees, but this seems like a pretty crucial feature that should be prioritized.
I mean, I recently switched to Proton knowing what I was getting into, but I’d really like to see this happen soon.
On the one hand, yes.
On the other, they’re still a for-profit company and Linux users still make up a small portion of their customers.
They likely have a larger portion of Linux users then other companies though.
Meaningless information from a business perspective
I don’t think you have the insider information to really make that call.
The only “Insider information” I have is a public interview with the CEO on a Linux creator’s channel.
This works with Proton?
On their GitHub:
Supported cloud providers Celeste can currently connect to the following cloud providers:
Dropbox Google Drive Nextcloud Owncloud pCloud Proton Drive WebDAV
That’s pretty cool all things considered I didn’t think a 3rd party client could be made for drive
Neat!
Very cool! Thank you for this.
I tried this before and it was very unreliable when used with WebDAV.
The backend is proprietary. Avoid.
As all things Proton.
Best alternative for email?
E2E Encrypted FOSS smoke signals that are only visible on a Time-Based One-Time wavelength of light are the only way.
Avoid why?
I’ll still stick with bitwarden, but if I were to introduce someone very tech illiterate, I would probably recommend proton
I’m tech illiterate and been using Bitwarden for 3 years (premium), and honestly it doesn’t work very well on Android. Every time I need to enter a password, it’s completely hit-or-miss with Bitwarden. Half of the time it doesn’t even pop up. I’m using Xiaomi phone and tablet with stock rom (global version).
Should I switch to Proton?
Before switching you should maybe read this and wait for the native app : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1b32bbz/going_native_the_future_of_the_bitwarden_mobile/
Wow thanks, I have no idea. That’s great news. I’ll definitely wait for the native app. But in the meantime I’ll try out Proton as a “backup” just in case something bad happens to Bitwarden or my personal vault.
Try the free version and switch to premium if you like it better than bitwarden.
In terms of “Free version”, what would be better? What would you recommend if I were to use one as Premium (daily use) and the other as Free (for backup purpose)?
Idk its up to you really try both out and go with what you like and buy a premium for what you decide to use daily .
Which sites or apps does it not pop up? It is rare for it not to pop up for me.
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Drive is under a different org:
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How does it compare to vaultwarden/bitwarden?
When it launched the apps were more modern than bitwarden. If bitwarden hasn’t improved since, then it’s still the same
Bitwarden’s interface hasn’t changed a bit and it’s a pity
Whats wrong with it?
Bitwarden is excellent but i have a few nitpicks on Android.
I wish I could change the “Username” field to “Email address” because it kind of annoys me having email addresses under usernames. I’d also like to add things to favourites or folders without having to go into edit mode on every entry individually. Same with adding notes. The app has trouble following the system theme and doesn’t always autofill reliably for me, meaning I sometimes have to go into the app and copy/paste my passwords manually.
Other than that, the UI is just a bit ugly compared to some other password managers,
Try Keyguard, it is open source and much nicer than the regular Bitwarden app. Do not use the version from the Play Store though, get it directly from Github.
It’s not open source. Only source available unfortunately.
I did not realize that. That explains why it’s not on F-Droid. Really unfortunate but at least it can still be publicly audited.
Huh, this is the first time I heard about this, thanks for sharing!
Do not use the version from the Play Store though, get it directly from Github.
Why? I use Vaultwarden with Bitwarden from the Playstore is there anything wrong with it?
The version on the Play Store requires a “premium” subscription for some features but the Github release gets those for free.
There is no guarantee that play store build contains the same code as GitHub repository. Ideally you’d need to compile apps yourself.
But most of the time stuff like vaultwarden is trustworthy enough.
Thank you, I will have a look at this!
Weren’t they planning to change it from Microsoft’s Android UI, it’s just taking a while, as they have to rebuilt it from scratch? I thought I saw something about that.
Correct, they announced it two months ago: https://www.androidpolice.com/bitwarden-app-about-prettier/
There is nothing wrong with it. Why people always want things to be changing? What really important feature are you missing?
And what better person to answer that question than Mr. Bitwarden himself:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1b32bbz/going_native_the_future_of_the_bitwarden_mobile/
Looks like everything is essentially in the same spot UI wise, but with a native application that hopefully gets moving a lot faster.
I’ve noticed that currently on Bitwarden, for auto fill it takes 6-7 seconds just to get authenticated with fingerprint and fill in the username and password field. That should hopefully be down to like 2 or 3 seconds.
A few for me:
- Automatically updating entries with app or URL information if they didn’t match and you had to manually search for them. You have to copy the URL, leave the browser, open the app, search for the entry again, and manually add the URL in the current version.
- Better defaults in the app like which group you log in to or which collection new entries are added to. Keeping all your entries added to a shared collection is a constant chore right now.
- Better keyboard functionality. It’s basically impossible to navigate with a keyboard on PC right now. Keepass has a global auto type hotkey which made it so you hardly even had to open the app.
a new client is on the way btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVQOESKbbA
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=-rVQOESKbbA
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
good bot!
Do you know if there’s a new interface coming for android as well?
Thanks for sharing, thats exciting!
It’s about to get Material You
What do you feel it’s missing? It’s a tad slower than I’d like but otherwise works quite well.
For me keepassxc is a dramatic improvement over a centralised service.
I use both and am afraid that I will lose the passwords in Proton Pass as Its a service they can restrict me of.
I should startto copy some accountd that I dont have yet in keepass but keepass is still the master holder
I’m not really sure what happens if Proton bans your account for any reason but Proton Pass does have offline access. I assume if you turn off internet access, you can still get all your passwords.
Is that not the same risk vith bitwarden too
Bitwarden has a really nice CLI that lets you backup your vault easily. I personally run
bw export --format json --raw
every few week so if for some reason I lose the “cloud” access, I can still migrate to self hosted or a different password manager. (Or you may choose to self-host to begin with)The danger with self hosting is that police can always steal everything from you.
Felt weird hearing story of my ex that the german customs office just stole their Laptop and Phone. She couldn’t show me pictures and she hadn’t any backups or smth.
I am afraid this could happen to me too when they suspect something but are wrong at the end. At the entire time I will not have access to my drives of my server and maybe they accidentally break them. Not sure if they will believe me that its a raid 1, I can imagine them stealing everything without questioning.
Great to know!
I’ll take KeepassXC and KeepassDX + SyncThing, just works and I don’t have to ever rely on someone else for my most sensitive data.
This. At least until i find a better solution than syncthing. But keepass(xc) all the way.
Neat, I’m personally gonna keep with KeepassDX, but it’s good knowing that there’s some more variety popping up in the mobile market.
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket
Very much agree
I use protonmail and very happy with that, so much so I pay for it.
But I would not place my mail and all my secrets in the same spot.
for the love of god use a free open source app like keepass, this is a untrustworthy company
I’ve been using Keepass like more than 5 years. And its perfect.
Which F-Droid client is that?
Looks like the standard F-Droid client
Oh wait it’s not, F-Droid doesn’t show the file size at the top
Yeah everything except the file size showing checks out
huh, my standard f-droid client does show the file size
it’s the standard one
Or even better use a local password manager. People will be swallowed by so much false comfort
Isn’t keepass local?
keepass is local
Proton VPN and nothing more.
They need to focus on providing quality services instead of quantity. The ProtonMail webmail is a shame: multiple selection lost if you click just outside the checkbox because that will open the email, emails that just after have been deketed reappear in the inbox and don’t get me started on the search 🤢!
P.s. I’ve double commented because I’ve just realized that I’ve written the other comment in Italian 😆, sorry.
the password manager kinda sucks too. credit cards are in a category that you have to delete the name of the site you’re visiting in order to see. sometimes I question why I’m paying for the thing. lastpass was way better 10 years ago.
Hanno iniziato da un po’ di tempo a fornire troppi servizi, dovrebbero focalizzarsi di più a sistemare quelli che hanno. La webmail di Protonmail è un abominio: perdita di selezione multipla aprendo un’email, email che ricompaiono subito dopo averle cancellate, ricerca…stendiamo un velo pietoso!
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