Would you also consider it preachy when people criticize other cases of animal harm, like bullfighting or dog beating, or is it just the financing of factory farming that can’t be criticized? If not, what’s the difference? It’s troublesome that people enforce a social stigma that you can’t talk about what we do to farm animals without suffering social consequences.
In this case I was talking about the OP tweet exchange, in which a guy replies specifically to peta
And in my other comments I wasn’t referring to vegans in general either, only the preachy and overdefensive ones. All the vegans I know IRL are good people who aren’t constantly preachy and defensive.
You can talk about your thoughts without being overly sensitive to criticism and ridicule. If you’d just chill the fuck out, I bet most other vegans would like you more too.
then vegans come into the replies and it’s “oh no I’m being attacked” | “You’re trivializing real concerns and trashing people who disagree” - laughtrack
This is a typical reaction to people like you not vegans vegetarians or other diets or food fads I don’t shit on someone because they like pink sauce I shit on someone based on the character and personality
Fun fact: like most people, I’m pretty damn ridiculous at times. This means that I sometimes am the object of criticism and/or ridicule. You and I have that in common.
Here’s the difference, though: I don’t go out of my way to play the persecuted martyr.
Not eating meat is a perfectly reasonable personal decision. Not using any animal products of any kind sounds difficult to the point of constant exhaustion to me personally, but if that’s what makes you happy, then that’s good.
Just like the bad kind of religious person though, you’re preaching that everyone who doesn’t make the same choice is wrong and should be ashamed of themselves. While simultaneously acting like everyone’s out to get you no matter what you say and do. That’s not not reasonable.
There’s absolutely no way, based on everything you’ve already said, that reading that novel will be worth the time and effort. Go take a nap or something.
How would you be a better vegan? Is there a competitive vegan league? Is there a cash prize that goes out to whoever can anthropomorphize animals the most in dogshit ads? Because if so, I think making an Islamic state beheading video but with chickens shouting “Death to KFC!” Would really sell veganism to the American audience. Or maybe we could settle for annoying shitposters on a meme community. Both have an equal chance of working (0%)
See that’s interesting, when I tried to respectfully speak my mind on the vegan community in lemmy they just banned me after one comment, but exuse me for laughing at vegans whenever they leave their walled gardens and cry when nobody on the lemmy shitposting community wants to hear from the vegan community. You talk up and down about intellect and facts, but whenever I actually engage with vegans they have (90% of the time) just deleted or banned any criticism. That may or may not be you, but when you talk about vegans as a whole being this “oppressed community” unable to speak their mind, it’s just funny to me. Because at least here, you can come and be ridiculed, but you won’t be banned or censored.
My favorite “my group is too big, thus you can’t criticize it because there may be two whole people who aren’t obnoxious” defense. Hate to break it to you, but I can. Until literally ONE Vegan behaves differently then any I have engaged with, I can and will continue labeling the community as obnoxious. You are also not helping their case.
Vegans are like religious people: most of them are totally fine. It’s the preachy and overly defensive ones that suck.
Would you also consider it preachy when people criticize other cases of animal harm, like bullfighting or dog beating, or is it just the financing of factory farming that can’t be criticized? If not, what’s the difference? It’s troublesome that people enforce a social stigma that you can’t talk about what we do to farm animals without suffering social consequences.
Dude made a joke at preachy hypocrites who kill a shitload of dogs. Lighten up and save your strawmen for another time.
Who kills a shitload of dogs? I think you replied to the wrong comment.
Peta do. They operate a shitload of shelters, none of which are no-kill.
You wrote vegans, not peta. Most vegans have nothing to do with Peta.
In this case I was talking about the OP tweet exchange, in which a guy replies specifically to peta
And in my other comments I wasn’t referring to vegans in general either, only the preachy and overdefensive ones. All the vegans I know IRL are good people who aren’t constantly preachy and defensive.
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I have never seen a vegan preach, here or on reddit. But i have seen hundreds of comments complaining about preachy vegans.
That’s a streaming load of horse shit. You’re evidently wearing ideological blinders rivaling those of religious fundamentalists.
And unfortunately the preachy ones are the only ones ever speaking up
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Because they’re using veganism as a substitute for having a personality. Never goes well.
If you tell anybody to stop doing something they like they’re going to tell you to fuck off.
Yeah like when they told us we shouldn’t use slaves anymore! Get off your high horse and stop telling us what to do!
comparing slavex to animals is what slavers do.
It’s comparing slave owner rhetoric to non-vegan rhetoric. Just because the word vegan comes up doesn’t mean animals are being compared.
it’s comparing the institution of slavery with the institution of animal husbandry. it’s comparing slaves to animals. it’s fucking gross.
Carnists have such bad reading comprehension. Let’s try another one and see if you get it
Yeah like when they told us we should give women rights! Get off your high horse and stop telling us what to do!
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i think this is a form of the “appeal to ridicule”
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You can talk about your thoughts without being overly sensitive to criticism and ridicule. If you’d just chill the fuck out, I bet most other vegans would like you more too.
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Great! I’ll file that away under “N”: Nobody Fucking Cares.
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Your doing a great job of that already
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then vegans come into the replies and it’s “oh no I’m being attacked” | “You’re trivializing real concerns and trashing people who disagree” - laughtrack
Happy to help!
I’m not offering you advice on how to be a vegan. I have no experience with being a vegan, so I wouldn’t be qualified.
I do, however, have a lot of experience with not acting like an insufferable zealot with a persecution complex.
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This is a typical reaction to people like you not vegans vegetarians or other diets or food fads I don’t shit on someone because they like pink sauce I shit on someone based on the character and personality
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Aaaand here goes the fucking preaching 🙄
Fun fact: like most people, I’m pretty damn ridiculous at times. This means that I sometimes am the object of criticism and/or ridicule. You and I have that in common.
Here’s the difference, though: I don’t go out of my way to play the persecuted martyr.
Not eating meat is a perfectly reasonable personal decision. Not using any animal products of any kind sounds difficult to the point of constant exhaustion to me personally, but if that’s what makes you happy, then that’s good.
Just like the bad kind of religious person though, you’re preaching that everyone who doesn’t make the same choice is wrong and should be ashamed of themselves. While simultaneously acting like everyone’s out to get you no matter what you say and do. That’s not not reasonable.
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There’s absolutely no way, based on everything you’ve already said, that reading that novel will be worth the time and effort. Go take a nap or something.
How would you be a better vegan? Is there a competitive vegan league? Is there a cash prize that goes out to whoever can anthropomorphize animals the most in dogshit ads? Because if so, I think making an Islamic state beheading video but with chickens shouting “Death to KFC!” Would really sell veganism to the American audience. Or maybe we could settle for annoying shitposters on a meme community. Both have an equal chance of working (0%)
If petah made an Islamic beheading video with chickens shouting death to kfc I would immediately reconsider my dietary choices
Although I should reconsider my dietary choices already it’s not like I make good ones
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See that’s interesting, when I tried to respectfully speak my mind on the vegan community in lemmy they just banned me after one comment, but exuse me for laughing at vegans whenever they leave their walled gardens and cry when nobody on the lemmy shitposting community wants to hear from the vegan community. You talk up and down about intellect and facts, but whenever I actually engage with vegans they have (90% of the time) just deleted or banned any criticism. That may or may not be you, but when you talk about vegans as a whole being this “oppressed community” unable to speak their mind, it’s just funny to me. Because at least here, you can come and be ridiculed, but you won’t be banned or censored.
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My favorite “my group is too big, thus you can’t criticize it because there may be two whole people who aren’t obnoxious” defense. Hate to break it to you, but I can. Until literally ONE Vegan behaves differently then any I have engaged with, I can and will continue labeling the community as obnoxious. You are also not helping their case.