If you’re running Proxmox in prod you need to treat it like prod. That means plan and test your changes, have contingency plans, schedule your changes, and be very precise. Try to keep your system as close to stock as possible; just leave it alone.

I’ve run a lot of infrastructure, from VMware, Hyper-V, KVM+QEMU\libvert, oVirt, and PVE, not to mention cloud infra and container orchestration. I did not want to like Proxmox when it showed up on my radar because they don’t use libvert but I tried it anyway and it has earned my respect. Their tooling and design choices are not bad and I expect them to continue to improve.

I have two HCI stacks in prod (with PBS) with a DR stack on the way, it’s been rock solid for years.

Also there is no way the second dude isn’t going. He’s going and hes going to bs and eat and drink beer and belch, no matter who else is going to be there.

My thing is this…

1. Adding it requires effort
2. Removing it, if possible, requires effort
3. It’s not a requirement
4. There are other alternative methods to get it, like toothpaste, or sumpliments, that don’t force your neighbors to have your fluoride.

Power users are just regular users with an ego.

GUI is like fast food, sure you can eat it and enjoy it, and you will live to see another day, but it’s inferior in every way to everything else. The real problem is that people start acting like fast food is the default food and start looking at people who eat raw or cook their own food or pay for food at a restaurant as being full of themselves.

There are countless real advantages to CLI over GUI, but allowing people to use their computer effectively by fumbling around isn’t one of them.

My point is that bad things shouldn’t prevent someone from having kids. Nobody would be alive today if other people didn’t have kids because bad things happen.

There was a time your dumb deseased mother pushed you out on a savana, maybe died in the process, and nobody on the earth gave a shit about you, and everything wanted to eat you from the ants, mosquitos, and flies, the larger predators. Everything was hostile and if you could manage not to die you still had to find a way to eat, drink, and shelter yourself from weather.

Millions of years of that, was just the beginning of how bad things could be.

Now we sit here, almost permanently sheltered, on the internet, where most peoples biggest problem is like, heart disease or rectal cancer.

Things have always been bad.