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This is a very stupid sentiment. Are you familiar with Iran?

Anyone have guesses to why they want this

Welcome, new user!

You might pick up some casual phrases but unless you are spending a ton of time with them breaking it down, you’re now an adult, and you will need more than the shows.

Just become undocumented in another country. 😂

I see, thanks. Just a bit confusing on the wording.

Only one Proton product is steeply discounted in tiers: the VPN. For 2.5 years it’s 60% off, 1.5 years 52%, and one month is 10%.

Everything else is 33% off for 1 year.

I only see 33% off bf deals on Proton’s website. Am I missing something?

I appreciate the empathy you are showing and considering my perspective. I don’t quite understand the sentence about when you’re saying both sides applies…

My point is there is no both sides when you read this article. Hamas broke into Israel and raped and murdered unarmed people point blank (they didn’t bomb). And then they butchered babies. That should be unequivocally stated and Hamas condemned.

Hamas is like Al Qaeda, like the Taliban. They are religious extremist terrorist groups. Not freedom fighters. They should not be receiving sympathy. You should be consoling the victims of this crime only.

For example, in USA national news, someone recently kidnapped a little girl from a camping site. Then the police found the kid in the trailer (alive). The news article did not say what a hard life the kidnapper had before he took the kid. It focused on the victim and the victim’s family.

Right now, everyone is saying “poor both sides”. No - Hamas murdered babies and beheaded them. This thread is filled with people who refuse to focus on the victims - the Israeli children. As if they are subhuman. It’s so fucking disturbing.

Musings and thought experiments can come later.

You are literally batshit insane. Look at any of my comments and I am saying don’t look at Hamas as Palestinian. So, I am not conflating them… what an idiot you are. Tone it down a notch.

You also advocated “why not both?” But I see what you’re saying.

Are you saying not to let terrorism dehumanize Jews?

Guess these were soldier babies? I found the open air apartheid babies comment.

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It’s sad you feel entitled to an opinion when it’s obvious you use infotainment as your primary source of information/news. To call what I taught you about Nazi views and Mengle experiments on humans nonsense… now I know you are not arguing in any informed manner or good faith.

Hope you get informed before you hurt your friends with your ignorance IRL.

So then you say “I condemn those who murdered the babies” not a version of “they had it coming”. Which is what you’re saying if you read this and post “I feel bad for the people who killed them”.

It’s the opposite of losing humanity when you can condemn murder. That is called accountability. When you excuse the murders that is victim blaming and shaming.

For someone who is arguing for both and, you have a hard time with nuance. It doesn’t help you see clearly. I would argue that it is your humanity that is lost - numbed. You’re afraid to feel the true pain of this and acknowledge who did it.

So these babies worked for the state? These are state sponsored babies?

That’s incorrect and also antisemitic.

Jews are ethnoreligious. They are an ancient indigenous people with indigenous practices, which predates their religion. The religion was born from the practices. To discount them as modern is false.

The Nazis used race to explain character traits and justify their crimes against populations, using race to say that it physically made other races more weak and less intelligent than white race, “scientifically”. That is patently false and disproven. But they used Mengele’s inhumane experiments to try to further that cause. It is in many ways the ultimate expression of white supremacy.

People do not accept that propaganda. They are confused by information like what you’ve shared, rather.

The point you need to learn and teach is to separate the people from the government. Which if you read my other comments, I do with the Palestinian people. I’m careful to condemn the terrorist groups and government, not the people they use as shields and victims. Right now, Israel is trying to secure a corridor to evacuate Gazans. But the problem is that terrorists are using child soldiers. It’s Israeli lives, not religious extremists, that are sacrificed when terrorists embed themselves with their people and then blow them up. However, people online are not able to grasp the concept. Because media reporting is deeply problematic.

The problem is that religious Jews don’t practice hate. There is nothing inherently wrong with a Jewish state. The problem is that religious extremism has taken root in the country, and it is used in a similar manner as in the USA to oppress everyone. Many people don’t want it. But like in the USA, progressive populations have a very difficult time organizing, and with a spine. So the extremists don’t, because their hate and fear unite them. Bibi has made an unholy alliance. Like in the US, something needs to change.

But you need to be honest - religious extremism is everywhere. This is the same hot topic in the United States, which already considers itself One Nation Under God. A country that expressly separates church from state still has these issues.

So, there’s your class for the day.

And there’s the “what about”ism.

Yeah… no. Killing babies is bad period mmmkay.

Leaving this from the Reddit thread, since it was put so well:

I look forward to seeing how this is excused, justified, and quietly cheered on by some of our fine members. No doubt the babies were “guards” in the “open air prison” and were in fact apartheid babies.

And hey, you can’t blame people for murdering dozens of babies, as long as those people have hard lives. And of course being known as the sort of people who would murder a bunch of babies has NOTHING to do with why they have hard lives.

Edit: Ok so far the top winners are, in no particular order:

“They had it coming”

“I’m not saying that they had it coming, but they had it coming.”

“Give peace a chance.”

And my favorite, the short lived “It didn’t happen.”

The end is that babies were mass murdered. That is unequivocally BAD. And universally terrible. It’s something evil that, let’s say Nazis, terrorists do.