iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F::Widespread reports are circulating about the iPhone 15 overheating, seemingly across all models. Measurements taken with an infrared camera show…
46.6˚C in normal units.
Stupid us units had me thinking there would be fires everywhere for a moment.
And if anyone’s wondering that’s 116°F in more normaler units
Edit: it’s a multi layered joke guys chill. Joke is Americans can’t read, the °F is in the title. The other joke is that American grammar is shit
Lemmy can be pretty hostile to non-European standards. It’s weird… I wonder if Europeans are just using more accounts than Americans, and stacking votes.
If not… Then yikes, if Lemmy is losing the American audience, that’s bad news, friends.
Celsius and Fahrenheit are both European units. It’s just that Fahrenheit is used by less than 5% of the world’s population, so it’s completely reasonable to expect a post title on an international website like this to use Celsius.
To be fair, the Fahrenheit measurement should be pretty intuitive here. Fahrenheit is easy because 0 degrees is “really fucking cold” and 100 degrees is “really fucking hot.” So anything triple-digits should be easily recognizable as “yeah that’s way too fucking hot for a phone.”
This is also why I prefer Fahrenheit to Celsius in general (even though I am an engineer and am not a die-hard patriot or anything like that). It is a more practical scale for everyday usage.
F makes more sense for this. It’s 0-100 on a scale of a human feeling too cold to too hot.
In situations where what’s being discussed is touching human skin: weather, a hot phone, water temp, etc… F does give you a quicker idea of things.
That said, downvote me away!
It only gives YOU a quicker idea because you are used to it.
I don’t deny that. But it’s also a well suited 0-100 scale for weather. It’s rare for a native C person to agree. I accept and expect the downvotes because hurr durr usa is dumb. To be clear, C is way better for anything other than things that touch my skin.
What’s this 0-100 scale you’re using? Just a personal comfort gauge that you’re assuming everyone uses? I’m American and it doesn’t even make sense to me. 70ish is room temperature, 98 is body temperature, 32 is freezing. That’s a really weird scale which doesn’t have any nuance to it especially since temperatures reach above 100 or below 0 in a lot of places. Add on that people like different temps and it’s really confusing.
For anyone willing to learn, a lot of devices have conversions from F to C. I have about half of my temp reporting equipment split so I can better understand C since all I personally knew was F. It also helps to have the formula in your head and convert it anytime you see F so you’ll slowly be comfortable knowing both of them. (Fahrenheit - 32) / 1.8 = Celsius, usually just do / 2 for a simpler time: i.e. 72F - 32 = 40 / 2 = 20C (really 22.222C but it gets you in the ballpark at least). It’s even easier to use the formula since 32 is Fahrenheit’s freezing temp so just always minus that away and divide by 2.
Like others have said, Fahrenheit is just easier for us because it’s what we grew up with and learned. It has nothing to do with the actual system besides personal experience. Thinking the “0-100” is a scale that makes sense when the bottom 3/4 is colder than comfortable room temperature is just being irrational.
The average temperature in the continental United States is just over 50 degrees while the extreme highs and lows are 100 and 0. Could make an argument that 0 is a bit too low.
Coincidentally, perhaps, but nonetheless you can’t deny it’s pretty good range for temperature of air in the US.
No need to downvote, I can handle someone having a different opinion.
Fahrenheit doesn’t give a shit about human temperature, he based it on some obscure things (which I can’t remember right now). It doesn’t even fit with human temperature, I think human temperature is like 97 or 98 °F or something like that. The argument was made only to have some argument, it’s not a property of Fahrenheit.
It does make exactly as much sense as Celsius with one important distinction - Celsius plays nicely with other SI units.
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how many foot-pounds does it take to heat 1 fl oz of water by 1° Fisfuck you.I don’t mean it’s body temperature. I mean it’s good for describing temperature felt by a human. The weather is a scale of 0 being too cold to 100 being too hot. The typical person never sees temperature outside this range in their weather, but a good bit of the full range.
When describing weather, you don’t care about 213 being boiling temp and converting to SI. In all Other uses, yes, C is better.
That’s just you being used to the imperial system. I have no problem describing the difference between 0°C, 20°C and 40°C.
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I’m not saying it’s impossible to describe the difference in Celsius. What I’m saying is that the resolution is finer, and with the scale of 0 to 100 is quick to understand.
The fact is we like to have a scale between zero and 100 for things. That’s what Fahrenheit is for weather. I understand you don’t agree, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is. I use both C and F. I prefer F for weather.
Honestly, I get your point, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a property of the scale, rather your increased familiarity with it. When someone says 68F I don’t have a mechanism to understand that, it’s not part of my experience. Saying 68% of too hot doesn’t help much at all. Whereas I can tell you exactly what I 40C feels like; and how that compares to anything from -15C to 45C, because of my familiarity with the scale.
Yes, familiarity with the scale definitely helps. But 50 degrees is halfway between burning up and freezing your ass off. Aka, light jacket weather.
Obviously, you’re holding it wrong
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Some context:
http://www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=15
At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.
So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?
I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.
Yea I think that when something is hot enough to cause burns, even when it takes minutes, I think it’s uncomfortable enough for people to let go way WAY before anything bad happens. If you don’t then you probably need medication for whatever condition ails you
He skipped 1st degree burns. Those would probably take 10 minutes or less.
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If the temp increase is slow, people don’t realize it’s hot unless they happen to put it down or reposition it.
When my son was younger, he burnt his legs by using a laptop on his lap. It got hot, he didn’t realize.
Same concept as being in the shower and very slowly changing the temp until you’re showering in fully hot/cold water.
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Ironically, a frog would actually jump out of the water if its temperature slowly increases.
Realistically speaking, since this is in fast charging only, and most people don’t let their phone battery drain to 0, I think it’s unlikely that 3rd degree burns will be an issue within reason. The iPhone 15’s reported to take about 30 minutes to charge from 0 to 50%, so if I assume the other 50% also takes 30 minutes, then really, someone won’t be hitting 45 minutes unless they’re charging from below 25% to full.[1]
That said, 3rd degree burns may be an issue once you slip a case on it that insulates the phone, making it yet hotter, and 2nd degree burns will be more of an issue too. I’d be interested in seeing what the peak temp is during fast charging with a case on, especially one of the thicker cases. If it internally gets to more than 140 degrees Fahrenheit, there’s absolutely risk that it could explode, and even if it’s not doing it externally, internally it may be nearing those temps.
I know charging isn’t actually linear progression, but I don’t really wanna do the math. ↩︎
Or maybe let’s not trivialize a defect that can cause 2nd degree burns making them look like nothing?
Chill Maalus, I’m pretty clearly addressing 3rd degree burns, and only even mentioning 2nd degree burns in circumstances that are likely to increase their risk.
What part of this set you off, genuinely? Was it the reference of it as a risk? Was it that I actually looked at the facts? No part of me thinks this is good. This is very obviously and inarguably unacceptable, and no part of my post states otherwise.
Funny too that you ignore the post right next to mine that legitimately is minimizing it.
“chill dude it’s clearly addressing the meat being charred and falling off the bone, and only mentioning potentially life threatening blisters in passing”.
I mean, I didn’t have anything to say with regards to the 2nd degree burns, really, so I didn’t feel the need to comment on them. Didn’t know any reply I made had to both acknowledge everything I agree with as well as make comment on what I feel was comment-worthy.
So I’ll start now. I disagree with your lackadaisical portrayal of me. Neither is it accurate nor does it form a coherent argument against me. It simply acts as an ad hominem used in the place of a substantiated or communicated argument.
I agree with nothing in your non-statement.
Also characterizing 2nd degree burns on the hands as potentially life-threatening was irresponsible of pseudo-me. Pseudo-I shouldn’t have done that, as it’s untrue. Pseudo-me should know they’re severe and serious, but something doesn’t need to be described as “potentially life-threatening” to be severe and serious, and in fact, pseudo-me should be aware that this is a minimization of things that don’t kill you but severely impact one’s quality-of-life, as 2nd degree hand burns would.
Read up what 2nd and 3rd degree burns even are, then we can talk.
Iphones have fast charging now?
Apparently. I’d drop dead before I buy one myself but a friend told me today that with fast charging the 15 charges to 100% in 55 minutes.
Sooo… still fast charging speeds from over 5 years ago. What have they messed up for it to heat up like that? Lmao
Well naturally this is a brand new technology that Tim Apple invented last week. It’s the best in the industry and really, $1000 for a phone this cutting edge is a bargain, even if it can literally burn your hands. /s
Complete opposite. I’ve never seen any other group of people let their phone drop so low. It’s like they do it on purpose. I blame the lack of battery % so they don’t get the anxiety effects.
What about 1st degree burns? Would these be ok?
So? My 250€ Motorola also has this feature, they are slacking behind
How long do you figure it’ll take them to make a phone that triggers nuclear fusion? Asking for a friend.
This is a massive problem. It’s not ok for a device which millions of people use to get so hot. This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
I hope this gets reported on the mainstream news so people realise Apple isn’t so great after all.
This is by far not the first time they’ve had hardware issues with their products. I think hardware is their Achilles heel.
Not that I feel sorry for them considering how much they fleece customers on the prices for the devices, repairs, accessories, the amount of times they tell you to get a whole new Mac when all it needs is 1 part etc.
This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
Something tells me it could also cause a fire given the wrong conditions.
(sorry yeah I’ll see myself out)
Good one 🤣
Apples hardware is one of their strengths. By far the best in class in mosts categories they compete in.
You might want to ask Lou Rossman about that, he would beg to differ.
I remember well when I was an apple fan that the unwritten rule was “never buy gen 1 of apple devices because they will have issues. Always wait for gen 2”
The issues with their laptops, especially the main board, is legendary. Then there’s bendgate, antennagate, the cracking of the cases of the white macbooks (which I had) etc
Not a stellar record. Whereas typically we don’t see these issues on PC’s and Android phones. The only big one was the exploding Samsung Note 7, but Samsung recalled them all and cancelled the phone. Unlike Apple who said “you’re holding it wrong” when their antenna design was the real problem.
Many laptop manufactures have terrible hinges, power connectors that break and terrible keyboards. The difference is volume of a single design and media pick up of the issues.
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Tested Genshin and it’s worse at higher temperatures.
Apple is leveling up at each new phone. iPhone are average with a premium price.
Sounds like a really expensive way to keep your coffee warm.
I’m sure this will likely get addressed shortly with a software update. Curious to see if they throttle the CPU / slow charging a bit.
IMHO, this is always the risk you run with day one hardware and software. Early adopters can get burned. In this case both figuratively and literally.
That said, I’ve been hitting some 15 pros pretty hard and I haven’t noticed any heat issues.
But honestly, how does something basic like this pass qc?
As someone in product development, I can attest to some stuff just not showing up until you throw millions of end users at something. You can try your damnedest to simulate real world usage and have all sorts of automated test, but the real world and real users alway find something. You just hope the something is small and patchable.
Are Apple fanboys not happy with their magic boxes called “smartphones” that just works? xD
if you want a phone that “just works” BUY A FLIP PHONE
What about A BRICK PHONE???
What a shitty cellphone. That’s why I use Motorola phones. They’re better than apple, and don’t overheat
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Have they fixed their update policy at long last? Back when I had an X Style it took literally over a year to get the newest version of their nearly stock skin of Android.
Thats nothing.? Sneakily using fahrrneit to make it sound like a big deal. I hate Apple as much as the next guy but this is exploitative journalism
What? 116 degrees is pretty dang hot.
Edit: It’s literally at the threshold of a first degree burn.
Its insides getting that hot doesn’t matter hell it is more than normal for a phone under heavy load(gaming and stuff)
Apple themselves say that a phone at consistently higher than 35C will suffer from battery capacity damage
There are at least two countries in the world that use Fahrenheit in a regular basis. US is one of them.
I’ll rather they use Celsius, but still it’s weird to think this is only to make “exploitative journalism”.
