GOP warning of ‘national security threat’ is about Russia wanting nuclear weapon in space: Sources::The White House will meet with congressional leadership as a top Republican is requesting President Biden declassify information on a “serious national security threat”

  • Zerlyna@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Wait they are warning us about Russia yet they want the oompa loopa that supports them.

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        9 months ago

        This is the truth. They’ve been trying and failing to peel his supporters off him since 2015 and have not only epically failed, they’ve generated more for him over time and the ones he has stick even harder.

        If the GOP or anyone else actually had any ability to steer his followers away and onto something else, the Day-Glo demagogue would have disappeared off the world stage long ago. But they can’t, and because he IS a demagogue while they have all the personal appeal and charisma of flaking eczema, they never will.

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          yep… in 2015 he was the laughing stock of the gop… until he started winning

          the fact that he got the nomination again blows my mind…
          i’m legitimately concerned about a civil war at this point…

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      9 months ago

      They are trying to create the narrative that Biden is helping Putin too because Trump so obviously does it. It’s whataboutism.

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    It’s concerning that right before this it came out musk is letting Russia use starlink and musk almost immediately said he’s taking some starling satellites out of orbit.

    Pretty sure he’s always been fine leaving space filled with broken shitty satellites.

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      He’s letting Russia use starlink? Care to elaborate? That would be a direct violation of sanctions the US has put over Russia.

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        Russia proper is geofenced and cannot use Starlink at all

        Russian citizens and individual members of militias/armed forces are buying terminals (via smugglers) and using them within Ukraine

        Short of blocking the Russia side of the front line as it changes daily, they can play whack-a-mole with terminals used by Russian/aligned forces

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          You said “musk is letting Russia use starlink”

          That’s a very specific claim but nothing in the article you linked indicates that this has anything to do with “Musk letting them do so” nor does it say that he denies the claims of them using it either. It only says that they don’t sell them to Russia and to our current knowledge this is true. Starlink doesn’t work in Russia or the occupied territories. It does work near the front lines though because Ukrainians are using them aswell.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            Well, you can believe the Ukrainian government, or Elon Musk.

            Pretty easy choice for most people.

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              Maybe you should just read the article you linked and stop making up stuff. You can hate Musk as much as you like but that doesn’t justify spreading lies.

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    Didn’t Russia sign some sort of treaty that prohibited that?

    They wouldn’t just go and ignore a treaty, would they?

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    This is not surprising, given as much nuclear saber-rattling as Putin has done in the last two years. He is absolutely desperate to be feared and for the West to back down, and I don’t think that’s an overstatement. Every day that goes by is a day his own empire slides back a bit, and his home control weakens as more and more Russians personally feel the bite of war coming back to them in myriad little ways.

    And meanwhile, as Putin grows weaker both at home and abroad, Europe and especially his bordering countries are strengthening both alliances and arsenals, choosing NATO over Russian lies and Ukrainian freedom over the easy path of just letting him have yet another country without a fight, like Georgia and Crimea.

    This war was only supposed to last three days, and we’re almost at the two-year point. If Putin could already have used nukes, even in the tiniest of “accidents,” he would have.

    Yet Putin is even more aware than anyone else that nuclear saber-rattling is ALL he can do without triggering MAD and/or putting the “blast” back into “oblast” when his shit blows up without leaving the pad for want of maintenance over the last few decades.

    Putting nukes into space is a great way of reinvigorating the threat behind his nuclear arsenal for the rest of the world and giving us all a bit of shock-and-awe – but without actually having to turn the key on anything he’s had laying around for the last forty years.

    “Less filling, tastes great.”

    But it’s still all theater. What Western satellites or resources can he actually nuke, anywhere, without triggering Article 5?

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      Texas has the same GDP as all of Russia. Both New York and California are considerably larger than all of Russia. There is no scalable parity here. China is more serious, but Russia is nothing more than a sadistic nuisance. Moving away from fossil fuels in the next few decades will make Russia into a backwater wilderness even more than it already is. The current war’s workforce generation gap is their death knell.

      It would not surprise me one bit if Putin’s rhetoric is done in collusion with the US military industrial complex behind the scenes. He’s already funding the Republican party. It would only make sense that he is also working closely with the real powers.

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    Which leads me to ask: if he has to have a launch capacity in space, how badly broken is Russia’s launch capacity?

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      His nuclear arsenal is primarily 50-year-old delivery systems that have been “maintained” by notorious black market scalpers. It would be a surprise if even one ICBM could make it to its destination and then detonate with effect, even if absolutely no countermeasures were deployed.

      The world has been politely capitulating to a man they know is bluffing. It’s been the lazy way out for decades now. It’s time to call his bluff and end this regime of terror.

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          One of the things about New START is the US and Russia inspect each other’s launch capacity, and its a bit of a zero sum game: The US would never admit it has better launch capacity against Russia because it tells China and Iran they can sweep in and gain soft power. The US could admit it and then the rest of the world sees a hyperpower situation again and a need to de-escalate its own capacity.