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You all need to find the courage to close with reddit forever. It’s done, don’t you see it? Everything was taken away from apps to moderators power, purge of old messages, and soon the reward system. What this suppost to mean? What else will be removed? It is in falldown.
Don’t worry… it’s all being replaced with direct payment to approved contributors… going tiktok model, it can get way shittier, and it will.
Luckily I won’t be there to see it because I no longer give a fuck about Reddit whatsoever. It sucks that much of the knowledge contained there will ultimately die, but we must build anew. It has been a learning experience that hopefully enough of us have taken to heart that a new and better way of doing things will stick.
I would like to, but the fact is lemmy is 99% shitposts and memes. Don’t get me wrong, I like that stuff but I also need to know wtf is going on in the world. Since losing rif and refusing to use the official app, I am now basically getting news when my wife sees it on Facebook, which means it’s old news by then.
We all have our bias. My lemmy is not like that. Which means you’re not curating your feed.
I block every community with content I’m not interested in. It works. My lemmy feed is very interesting.
Same. It might take a minute to curate for the specific news you want, but there are plenty of communities providing substantive news at least daily.
Any tips you can share on how you did this? I’m totally new to Lemmy, and I’m having a hard time finding and/or discovering interesting communities.
You’ll have to look for the ‘block community’ button. Depending on the UI you’re using, this can be in different places.
In Lemmy’s default UI, you first click the part under the title identifying the community under which it was posted. Let’s say it was posted under
darkmemes@lemmy.world. What you do is:- click that
darkmemes@lemmy.world; - on the community page, you then click the ‘block community’ button on the sidebar.
.On a phone app, the process may be less cumbersome. On Thunder, an Android app, you just have to click and hold the post, wait until a menu appears, and then select ‘block community’.
- click that
They’re saying the opposite. They block things they aren’t interested in.
The reality is that the shitpost and meme communities will be the ones that give birth to the niche communities we need to thrive. It’s easy, low-effort, but fun-enough and engaging enough to get people through the door.
It’s a process. Memes are the lowest common denominator, will get a lot of ppl on the site, then small communities will grow. Some are already useful, I curate a list that I follow and see when I open my app, and I can already see world news like the Italy heatwave, actor strike, etc. at the top. Not perfect, but already beter than 1 week ago.
Yeah I get that too, but it just shows we’ve been too reliant on others to generate content for us
If it’s the news you need, there are RSS feeds from news sites, I’ve also subscribed to them after leaving Reddit
Precisely. Sharing your finds and commenting on what others have found is the ideal situation. When only 1% post content, and slightly more comment, it is easy to game the system - like Reddit and these other “socials”. Lemmy’s robustness will be a function of its people.
Unsub from memes. It is so much better.
This. If you’re unhappy with the shitposts, block /c/[email protected] and like magic, they’re gone.
Lemmy will hit its stride. I did some minor tweaks to my feed and it got a lot better. I’m still getting the lay of the land tho
Do you know if there’s a way to group multiple instances into a “multifeed” like multireddits?
Not yet but it’s been requested a million times. Someone will get to it soon enough, whether it’s the devs or a third party solution.
Block memes communities in your profile settings.
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I’m hoping the quality of the content will grow over time. I don’t even give a shit about porn but right now it’s like half this place is posts about wet pussies and subs about ass and it’s grossing me the fuck out. I’ve been curating so it’s getting better but still
I get my news from the AP and I’m very happy with it. It’s one of the few apps that I allow push notifications for so I don’t even need to check the app to get the top headlines, I just tap on the ones that look interesting and clear the rest.
I unfortunately still have some subreddits I need to follow there, but much more of my time is spent over here these days.
If you don’t mind sharing, which subreddits are you still following on reddit? Do you think they might move over eventually?
I am following subreddits related to Gamestop stock and BBBY stock.
Also, there are a bunch of very niche subreddits that haven’t even got single-user communities here yet… I play somewhat obscure musical genres and instruments and nobody in those subreddits are talking about Lemmy except for me 😕
I just want to browse new guitar and bass pedals and pedal boards 😢
I thought I’d miss that sub, but I’m a bassist with a PBass into a Fuzzrocious Demon with the gate/boost mod going into my Mesa 400. I literally stopped looking at those posts because I don’t need to go anywhere else with my tone these days and I don’t give a shit if anyone is overpaying for a Bad Monkey. Reaching this state is quite freeing
I haven’t bought pedals in 5 years but I still like viewing and discussing others’ gear. I’m glad you’ve found your perfect setup though!
Might be your spot. I randomly subscribed to that one since the beginning even though I don’t play the bass. But they could definitely use some more subscribers. They seem chill
This one I had to look up also.
Sub.rehab, lemmyverse.net, and browse.feddit.de are all very helpful tools for finding new communities.
That’s the most active GME community I could find.
Same. Reddit is my only source of baseball news and content and there just isn’t a scene for that here on Lemmy…
Maybe I should post…
You’re in luck.
There are a few others but that’s the one with the most activity, mostly because of the admin, and a little because of me 😅
They’ve also got links to all of the mlb team communities in the sidebar.
They should’ve done it during the protests. Either actually threaten to walk out or engage in malicious compliance like r/PICS, even if Reddit does replace them with paid moderators, and direct people to alternatives.
I gave up on Reddit the day Apollo died and haven’t looked back. Lemmy’s a nicer place.
I’m glad you’re here to make Lemmy a nice place to be.
❤️
… now kiss…
No, we’re not doing that here.
Cheers, glad to be here with awesome people like yourself :)
I came from Sync. I’ll pour one out for you, brother
Same here! I’ve been enjoying Connect as an experience but I am looking forward to Sync for Lemmy. It’s actually the whole reason I came here. I was going to just give up once sync shut down but Lemmy has been a nice transition.
Likewise, but with RIF
same, but with baconreader. I try to avoid reddit on pc now as well
Same but with Joey… That one held out for a bit longer and I had my hopes up that they figured out a way to keep running somehow
With voyager (formerly wefwef) there is a perfect Apollo alternative for Lemmy
Huh, didn’t realise it’s been renamed to Voyager!
I used to use RIF (and briefly Narwhal) and ended up using Connect.
It’s not quite what I want, but close enough.
Have you tried Voyager? On my iPhone, it makes Lemmy feel almost exactly like Apollo. You may like it.
Yeah! I quite like it, I’ve been using both Voyager and Memmy —didn’t realise Wefwef had been renamed though!
Oh, hey! I’m the guy behind tedd.it. Didn’t really expect to see it here, but thank you for the mention!
I’ve been running tedd.it for just about over a year now, and it’s heartbreaking for me to end it this way. tedd.it was the choice of thousands for a safer, simpler, more private way to browse reddit. I’m a big online privacy advocate, so hosting this instance was a mission for me more than anything: to help others improve their privacy, even if just a little bit.
Sadly, with how much traffic tedd.it is seeing, there is no way I could possibly pay for API access. Even with lots of caching, we’re speaking tens of thousands of dollars at least. With the site constantly rate-limited now, there’s no point in keeping it up - it’s not exactly cheap to host, even before the API changes. I had to make this difficult choice.
It’s worth mentioning that tedd.it is just one instance of the teddit project. Obviously I don’t speak for the entire project, but from conversations I had with other hosts I believe the feelings are mutual. The project is already kinda stale with the maintainer very low on activity, and Reddit’s third party apps ban feels like the final nail in the coffin.
I’m a big supporter of the Fediverse. I think it’s our best attempt at building a better social media for everyone. I’m already on Mastodon and now with reddit going rogue I figured I could use the reach of tedd.it to help more people find their home here.
And for those who asked: why Lemmy? It’s just my personal preference. Kbin is also great! I just found Lemmy more user friendly personally. But hey, that’s the beauty of the Fediverse: we’re all allies here ❤️
Thanks again for the spotlight. Feel free to ask any questions you might have! Cheers ✌️
Thank you!
People like you make the internet a better place.
Thanks a lot. I mostly used tedd.it over the last year maybe more. Was always more stable than teddit.net. is there a way to thank you for your work? E.g. buymeacoffee or something like that?
I also have a question: Do you think self hosted teddit will continue to work for the next years? As I understand it it dosent reach the api limit and is therefore still useable.
Thank you! I appreciate the support. I don’t have anything like buymeacoffee but I still really appreciate it.
As for self hosting, under the current API terms it should be fine as long as you are the only user and use an API key. You’re still likely to encounter some 429s but it won’t cripple your experience entirely.
I’ll stick with kbin, but we’re all friends here. 👍
That’s the neat part: We’re all browsing the same content.
People who call this whole thing complicated are just, I dunno, incapable of understanding the concept of logging in? It doesn’t matter what door you go in, it’s all (mostly) the same room.
It’s actually a copy of the original room, and there are invisible goblins synchronising all objects in the rooms so that it looks like the same room. They are also moving mannequins so that they match the movements of all the people in the other rooms.
To us it looks and feels like the same room with the same objecs and same people, so it doesn’t really matter.
But sometimes an admin might order that the goblins must not sync one specific room anymore. Then you start to notice differences depending on which door (=room) you actually use.
Maliciously order an goblin?
They’re talking about defederating and trying to make it sound bad.
I’m not trying to make it sound bad. Else I’d have used something like “maliciously” or whatever. I’m just trying say that sometimes you might actually see differences (e.g. beehaw.org communities on lemmy.world after defederation), and this is only possible because there are multiple rooms and not just one (with this analogy).
It is bad if we care about adoption right now
I wouldnt say incapable. Before I joined I was unsure about this whole federation thing as well. I was worried that I have to sign up to multiple instances (and this is actually not untrue, because of defederation) but I worried too much. It’s a lot easier than I imagined
Yeah, before I got into this Fediverse thingy, I too thought that I would have to create bazillions of accounts across different servers and that this is a terrible “business model.” Look where I am now, with a matrix account, lemmy account, and a mastodon account and all the Fedi-thingies. We need to somehow let people understand how the Fediverse works better.
There’s a difference between “incapable of understanding” and “doesn’t have enough background information to understand.” Are there people who can’t understand certain tech concepts? Absolutely. But there are a lot more people who just miss the first rung on the ladder, and can’t make it to the top. They can understand when they get the explanation from the ground up, but until then, they’re stuck.
I see it happen a lot when tech people try to explain something that is brand new to the listener, because when you are already able to understand something at a high level, you forget to mention the first several rungs. It’s usually a great explanation, it’s just not an explanation the person on the ground can use.
…also, I don’t think it’s failure to understand login when every instance asks for a separate login if you don’t navigate there through your own instance. It’s a misunderstanding that results from experiencing the fediverse without understanding how it works, not a failure to grasp an abstract concept.
A week ago, I would have said that’s it’s complicated, but I just login into lemmy.world and I can browse minutes of content!!!
We still need the crowd
yes, I tried bringing some but all I got is a big fat NO sooo we still need to wait
Who? What was their reason?
Reddit, no reason provided
they federate nicely at the end of the day, and that’s what matters
Just so that nobody gets confused, it gets constantly synced, not just at the end of the day. That’s just an unfortunate use of a common saying in this case. :)
Lol! Also worthing noting that federation is not yet working perfectly, and there are legitimate reasons why your choice of instance matters a great deal.
Many instances are not yet properly configured and there is a real barrier to joining and participating in communities on other servers. This is a good thing, because it means that Lemmy can get even better in the future.
why kbin over lemmy? havent tested it out much.
Kbin includes some mastodon/twitter-like functionality. It also makes public what you vote for and the interface is subjectively nicer. It also have PWA support for the main websites.
However, it doesn’t have app support right now. There’s significantly more development on that front with Lemmy.
While I am posting from a lemmy account (because I didn’t know about kbin when I made it) if I was to host one of the two it would be kbin. The reason is that lemmy has some hardcoded moderation things inside it that I disapprove of. I believe I should be able to say anything I want without fear of being censored on my own self hosted instance and this comes from a leftist, I don’t want to use bad words to insult people, but if I want to use them in a different context I want to be able to. If I see an argument between a bigot and a fellow lgbtq and the bigot calls my comrade with a slur I want to be able to describe the situation using the exact words used. I think maybe it’s a cultural difference thing, where I live using slurs in a context where we describe a situation rather than for insulting someone it’s not seen as a bad thing. We don’t give those words so much power and importance to the point that even just saying the words makes people gasp. I believe that censoring some words by default without even considering the context they are being used in doesn’t help, I believe it just gives the words more power while we should aim to take power away from them.
Also kbin has a much prettier UI in my opinion.
The “slur filter” was causing so much arguing that the devs stopped hard coding it. Now the whoever is running the instance can choose any or no filter.
Ah that’s good.
slur_filter_regexdoesn’t seem to have a value by default, so I don’t understand your point.I might be misinformed then, I’ll have look better into it.
My understanding is the differences are superficial, since they’re both interfaces to activity pub.
For me personally, it’s the cleaner (stock) UI
Found it first.
To me, Kbin isn’t really ready to be used by the average person. I get a lot of error messages and many communities are missing, no matter which Kbin instance I choose. I’ll move to Kbin when it’s a little more fleshed out. For now, I’ll stick to Lemmy.
I haven’t had any issues.
Kbin is great too! Definitely has its upsides.
Is kbin not just another Lemmy instance? I keep seeing people mention it alongside Lemmy like it’s something different, but it doesn’t seem to be when I look.
The content is the same, as it federates with lemmy, but the server and the code that runs kbin is completely different, it’s written in php while lemmy is written in rust. Kbin also has support for microblogs (like mastodon) so it’s not lemmy at all really, but it can talk with it :)
Unfortunate but inevitable given the API changes. I only used teddit for a short time to check on a few subreddits during the protest/blackout period. This really marks the end of me visiting reddit in any form or fashion now.
Yay for the lemm.ee mention!
There’s dozens of us!
Dozens!
I’m a guy like me!
Mario, isayou!
xD good job sussing out the name.
uh oh, i want to kinda keep lemm.ee on the down low cuz it’s awesome and I don’t want more traffic lol
The admin was saying there is plenty of capacity and was encouraging more people to join recently. Hopefully that’s still the case.
I got a 502 error today and I blame u
😅
Luckily the admin really knows what he’s doing.
this is just one of the instances
there are many more instances according to https://farside.link/ (which is a thing that will automatically redirect you to one of them: https://farside.link/teddit/ ) so by using this, you help reduce the load on individual instance, resulting in less “too many requests” errors for everyone.Thanks for introducing me to farside!
The problem still stands, I tried just now a few of those randomly redirected instances, and they’re all still giving Error 429 (Rate Limited). Reddit is on a horrible war path here and realistically the only way out is to just cut oneself off now.
mlmym.org mimics oldreddit. I was turned on to it this morning, please spread the word. It’s like going home. it pulls from whatever lemmy you’re using so you don’t have to worry about losing your stuff.
Tried it last few days and I kind of like it a lot.
Yeah, I am really impressed about it, at first I was thinking about what the use of it would be, kind of wouldn’t make much of a difference. Then I tried it out, and it just feels like home, it’s so much more compact, I really love it, and I’ve used it for a couple of weeks by now :)
Oh come on, I just started using it two days ago! Libreddit often doesn’t work these days.
Libreddit is shut down. They are trying, but it doesn’t seem they have much of a plan.
Aw dang I just set up an instance of libreddit for myself a few days ago. Oh well it is what it is
You can self host Libreddit. Works great that way.
Yep you can even set up your Android phone as its own server. Been working like a charm for me.
https://github.com/pixelpassport/snoodroid_server/blob/main/Guide.md
This guy hosts
Ngl that lemmy home page is offputting to non-techy users
Yes, lemmy does not work for non-techy stuff. Sometimes I want to look up random stuff like getting the best sim plan for international travel or what are the best apps for tracking weight lifting workouts. That kind of stuff is not available if the mainstream is not here. And thus reddit is unfortunately still needed.
That’s not strictly true, now. I found a good fountain pen community, and a few for knitting and embroidery, among other analog interests. Not everything is here, but the non-tech stuff is starting to trickle in.
It’ll happen with time, but yeah, reddit has had a decade to have any interest about anything to be posted on their platform
I hope so. In the meantime I would love to see a proxy to/from reddit, kind of like how there is bird.makeup for following Twitter people in Mastodon. I don’t care if the discussion on Lemmy doesn’t go back into reddit. It would make the transition easier anyway.
Someone has (or had?) a bot that would repost threads from popular reddit subs. Always saw them in new but without any comments or upvotes. It didn’t interest me, seemed artificial.
I think Lemmy just needs to keep growing organically for now as instance operators and the code devs figure out the scaling problem.
Yes, sure. But it would be cool if we had “proxy” communities for some of the non-techy stuff that I can subscribe to. Just so I can keep in tabs with updates on my favorite workout app, etc.
And if that proxied community ever transitioned over, they could just take over the community.
what are the best apps for tracking weight lifting workouts
I’ve been looking for one as well. I’ve been using Progression for a few years and it has been decent.
That is actually the one I have been using too! But I always keep searching for if there are better ones. Progression would be perfect if they added exercise images, since I am a visual person, and tend to forget how an exercise is done.
Would love to see the developer to move his discussion to Lemmy.
The join-lemmy one? Yeah, that looks straight up aimed at coders, like the landing page of a framework
It’s frustrating when so often techy people produce something but don’t go the slight extra distance to anticipate the needs of normal people getting inducted into using the software. You see it all the time.
Every Linux distro until pretty damn recently…
Reddit third party apps migrating to Lemmy might address this
It’ll ask for an instance and the user won’t have a clue
Maybe.
I tried the “old Reddit” Lemmy website today. The first thing it asks you for is a URL? What? I just loaded a URL!
I mean, I get it but it is not a great new user experience.
I also use Voyager which makes Lemmy look like Apollo ( the Reddit iOS app ). It is much smarter as it gives you read only content by default. You only get confronted to use a Lemmy server when you go to post. Before that, you can browse, read, and search without logging in or choosing a server. It is a vastly better introduction.
I’m using jerboa and it’s fine? Can see all the active threads in the Fediverse.
You can first build something you like using yourself, but at some point you should start holding it under the nose of various well-meaning not-so-techy people and watch how they try to use it.
tedd.it is not the only teddit instance, nor even one i knew, with the main one being teddit.net. that being said its heavily unusable in its current state without running your own personal instance to stay under the api limits https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit … that being said, screw that noise, im here instead.
Thank you for clarifying! I definitely was thinking it was all teddits and not just an individual instance.
It is all teddits.
The shutdown notice you link to only concerns the tedd.it instance not teddit as a project. Of course the other instances face the same issues though, so these alternate reddit fronts will probably still take a huge hit in user interest and development or even wind down since spinning up your own instance is to much hassle for a lot of people.
Yup! I don’t speak for all of teddit, just my instance. Although many of the other hosts I talked to feel the same - at the end of the day, the API changes don’t leave us much of a choice. Public instances are practically impossible now.
Duh
So is Lemmy going to stick? Have daily users gone down? I hate to say I stepped back to Reddit because there just isn’t enough content on Lemmy for my taste yet.
Then advertise and market lemmy. Not by literally going on the street with cart boards “use lemmy Plox”, like even sending a link from Lemmy makes Someone question “why everybody is into Lemmy lately? What is it?
That’s how I found out about Reddit anyways. Don’t underestimate word of mouth.
Oh I have been… or was. Then threads came along lol.
But yeah I want to see Lemmy succeed… I love the Memmy app.
Threads is not a direct threat to Lemmy and never will be. Neither Fedverse. The whole point is that it’s like in the old days, decentralized. You don’t like one server? You go to another. Or you make your own. And big communities will always exist that will want to fuck with whoever opposes basic standards. Just like what happened with Spez/Reddit
Threads came and is already on its way out. Lemmy is here to stay.
Threads lol. Maybe try Facebook, I hear they even have games!
lol it was something new. It’s already filling up with spam and political garbage. Didn’t take long. Why I’m back to see how Lemmy is doing. I love Lemmy and want to see it explode!
Well, I’m doing my best to get the [email protected] community started. Once there is enough activity here, the critical mass becomes self-reinforcing and it takes off.
And it’s not as if all of Reddit will switch over right away - Twitter is still somewhat alive too; but Mastodon gained enough momentum now to actually matter and to be at a sustainable level.
That is the logic most people confuse with socially-focused spaces like the fediverse ecosystem. The point is not to create monopolies but to have a diverse information system so no one node controls the flows. Co-existence is the word. The tough bit is to create a space big enough to create healthy information flow without being too big as to monopolize the neighborhood.
The tough bit is to create a space big enough to create healthy information flow without being too big as to monopolize the neighborhood.
It’s much easier when the administrators of the space have altruistic rather than economic motivations. We just need to make sure that the number of nodes continues to grow organically along with the userbase, and we should be alright.
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Excellent! Consider me subscribed!
If you don’t move then you’ll never get more activity, people will move eventually if their favorite apps move to Lemmy or Kbin.
My guess right now is that it won’t be as big as Reddit. I think we’re in an environment where the network effect is so strong that it is extremely difficult for big players to fail. The type of failure and migration we saw from Digg to Reddit doesn’t seem possible now.
But it might be big enough to be a good replacement for more hardcore users. I personally am using both and Lemmy is maybe 40% of my usage and growing.
Solution to this is to duplicate every Reddit post you create on Lemmy, and tell everyone else to do the same
better solution: instead of creating a reddit post in first place, do it on lemmy. this forces over the long haul people to move because the content and community is there.
True, so how about this: create a Lemmy post, then post the link on Reddit. People eventually get tired of have load a new page every time, and create a Lemmy account
reddit already banned and killed aubreddits who just explained people how to migrate to kbin and lemmy. so i think if you would do that reddit would just start banning people and prevent us from posting any lemmy links. also most users probably wouldn’t bother even clicking on the link since they want the infos directly without having to do a lot of clicks. so it helps more to recommend lemmy to users in comments etc.
I wonder if it’s time for someone to spin up a site like https://killedbygoogle.com/ except for Reddit. Maybe killedbyspez.com or killedbyreddit.com?
Is it weird that before getting to the comments I had this exact same thought too?
Genuinely curious how many apps have been killed by this Reddit cull…
Edit: I think it should just be called spezzed.com and list everything that got ‘spezzed’
This is fantastic name! The verb form of fuck /u/spez
Do you think it’s spezzed or spezed? i.e two zz or one?
Two zs, otherwise it’d be the past tense of speze.
Teddit went out in style with that message. Thank you dev, I used teddit often. Forgive me keeping the bookmark on my toolbar just for a few more days.
Thank you! ❤️ I’m not the dev of teddit, I just run this instance, but it still means a lot to me. I hope you found it useful while it lasted!
