Police said a suspect was in custody after the shooting near the Capital Jewish Museum
A suspect is in custody after shooting dead two Israeli embassy staff outside a Jewish museum in Washington on Wednesday night.
The gunman, named by police as Elias Rodriguez, 30, of Chicago, approached a group of four people leaving an event at the Capital Jewish Museum and opened fire, killing Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.
Metropolitan police chief Pamela Smith said the shooter had been pacing outside the museum, which is steps away from the FBI’s field office, before the shooting.
After killing the pair, who officials said were a couple, he walked inside, where event security detained him. The suspect yelled: “Free, free Palestine,” after he was arrested, police said.
So, a jewseum?
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The way I heard someone put it is “these are two more of the thousands of tragic deaths caused by Israel’s genocide in Palestine”
Bro, you’re not going to stop a genocide by busting a cap in two nobodies half a world away.
Are you implying anyone thought it would?
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That’s a what globalize the intifada means in practice.
I don’t see how “globalize the intifada” jumps over to adventurist shootings. In practice, it means actions like writing off weapons factories (e.g. Palestine Action in the UK), strike and blockade actions (e.g. maritime unions, port actions), pressuring governments and organisations into withdrawing support for the zionist regime (e.g. boycotts, BDS movement, university protests) and other mass movement. We saw similar mobilisation with apartheid South Africa and the Vietnam War, so this isn’t some imaginary claim, it’s based on actual history of similar international solidarity movements.
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Not to disagree with the claim, but it’s important to incidentally point out that historically speaking, this kind of strategy is ineffective, at least without an organised mass movement to resist the reactionary clampdown. It’s not sustainable. If it were, the US would have solved their healthcare problem already.
They censored me lol. What is this reddit?
So, there’s a lot of things happening in Gaza other than what’s on the nose. Like starvation can cause neurological issues in the brain, in the body. It can even make your hair turn gray. All the stress. During World War I, soldiers came back with a thing called shell shock, and they would just constantly shake all the time. The kids in Gaza are showing symptoms of shell shock. So I could care less about two people getting killed.
This guy shot people coming out of the Capital Jewish Museum.
He had no way of knowing who they were.
He didn’t kill them for working for Israel.
He killed them for being Jews.
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It’s the thing I said would start happening to Jewish folks and Israelis.
Are you conflating Israel and Zionism with being Jewish? Or are you simply suggesting Jewish people might receive collateral damage from Zionism, similarly to Muslims (and Arabs and Sihks and …) after the 2001 WTC attacks?
To help understand the separation of topics.
Collateral damage from the Zionists. They don’t care how many Israelis and Jewish folks get hurt. They want to turn the Middle East into their colonies. And this is what happens when you colonize other territories.
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here we go again
What I found pretty unsettling when I watched some excerpts from the news was the stark contrast in how the events are portrayed depending on who’s getting murdered. Let me explain:
The media and officials insisted on humanizing the victim; notably mentioning the crushed family life he was building for himself (“He bought the ring and was engaged”).
The problem is that the Palestinian children and families getting crushed in a genocide don’t have the privilege to be treated as human, to be cared about or their dreams and aspiration considered. They are at best unfortunate victims and most of the time walking flesh that needs to be exterminated.
I find that so frustrating how the right or even the mainstream always portray themselves as the superior moral culture while enabling the worse mass extermination to happen, documented before them.
EDIT: they even talked about a “heinous” crime which felt so tone-deaf and laughable.
Philosophy Tube has a great video about this topic https://youtu.be/rLfzO7Sbdc4. At 27:20 she starts talking about who’s life is worth grieving and who’s is not, and how this is a government level topic. It hits the nail on the head about the differences in reporting two different people’s deaths can have. At 33:45 they specifically talk about the 2008 Gaza war.
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Wonder how many American “pro-lifers” are ok with this genocide
Every. Single. One. Those kids are kids, not fetuses; alive, with hopes and dreams. In other words, completely fucking useless to the “pro life” people.
Do you mean a lot of victims are babies so people can’t relate and sympathize? Because for a child, there are so much dreams, emotions, formative experiences; how can the public hostile to the Palestinian cause close their eyes on that ?
People getting killed in a warzone is different than political murders.
It’s not about who, it’s about context.
News reporting is also about new and unexpected events.
Consider this: People being killed in Sudan or Myanmar gets no attention compared to Gaza.
lol. Describes Gaza as “people getting killed in a warzone”, then has the lack of self-awareness to preach about context.
You sound like an Israeli shill, mate. Dumbing down the language and trying to change the focus to another atrocity.
Gaza isn’t “people getting killed in a warzone”, it’s civilians and children getting bombed in their beds/hospitals/schools/refugee camps and currently being starved to death in the dark by an oppressive fascist regime.
Just as the tide of public opinion was turning against Israel. That guy probably got a few hundred thousand Palestinians killed.
Rodriguez
I don’t think the shooter was Palestinian.
Do you suppose that matters?
You don’t think this would be different if an Arab or a Muslim (not mutually exclusive) did this?
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If he yells “free Palestine” while doing it, that means he’s associating himself with others who support a free Palestine. And that means other people won’t want to associate themselves with them.
I feel like this is very obvious but people seem unwilling to acknowledge it. Because they view this guy as on their side. But he’s on the side of narcissists, not people who are effective at saving Palestinian lives. He didn’t think at all about whether this will save or cost Palestinian lives.
I feel like the free Palestine movement in particular needs to understand this: if you want to save Palestinian lives, you need to convince people. And you don’t convince people by shooting at them, or by justifying people who shoot at them. Think about it: do you see Coke murdering Pepsi supporters as part of a marketing campaign? No. Because the people they hire for marketing are paid a lot of money to actually succeed. Instead they associate coke with positive things, by bringing in celebrities, and generally portraying coke drinkers as cool people.
You should try being more like coke. Sorry if this sounds belittling, but I feel like it needs to be said because free Palestine people seem to think the best strategy is to piss off the people you’re trying to convince. And that has never worked once in the history of mankind.
If he yells “free Palestine” while doing it, that means he’s associating himself with others who support a free Palestine.
You aren’t with a group simply by saying that you are. That group must also acknowledge that you are with them. Otherwise anyone could simply identify as belonging to any group without any checks to that. Association is a two-way street, and I haven’t seen anyone stepping up to claim him.
The people committing genocide are literally wearing a uniform that identifies their association with Israel.
You should try being more like coke.
Maybe Israel should be more like Coke and stop committing genocide if they want people to support them, instead of doing a speedrun of pissing off the entire world.
Incidentally, Coke is a really bad example. They have done some absolutely dastardly shit and shouldn’t be a role model for anyone. Don’t drink Coke.
It’s rather interesting that I haven’t seen anyone mention that this guy who was shot was almost certainly a spy.
what do you think it means ?
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The man who got shot had an active Twitter account. Very stand-up guy. Such a shame he got killed.
And thank you president Trump for speaking out for the man who has always had your back. 🫡
Contrary to the bogus claims of the media, this dude is not a bullet-riddled corpse!
good ridance
Well he seems like a total piece of soulless shit, lets give him that.
While any loss of life should be saddening, this dude REEEEALLY makes it hard to be empathetic.
Wonder what his lemmy username is.
Rest in piss.
Heartbreaking to see, but sadly it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. This war on Gaza is growing increasingly unpopular and people feel powerless to stop the ongoing genocide being conducted by Israel. I don’t support attacks against random civilians but I’m not surprised somebody saw an opportunity to make a statement. These deaths are on Netanyahu along with the tens-of-thousands of Palestinians killed since the war started.
It doesn’t look like this was an “attack on random civilians.” Out of all the people they could have killed, they killed people who work for the Israeli Embassy. They worked for the government doing the genocide.
Now did they support it? Who knows, but this shooter was not shooting up a movie theater. It was no more random than the United Healthcare CEO.
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These deaths are also on the people who demand to globalize the intifada.
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Do you think these murders help Palestinians?
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During the last month, I have introduced real life Israelis and Palestinians to each other. I have helped two Palestinians deal with German bureaucracy.
That’s the most recent stuff. A complete list would take too long to write down.
not really random, this guy seems on par with the Israelis watching Gaza bombings from a cliff while eating popcorn. He also seems to have a full hard on for Trump, so for him all kinds of humanitarian crimes are probably ok as long as the president supports Israel State’s genocide. So not really random, perhaps more on the same level as Luigi.
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Brain dead comment, these 2 people don’t run the government of Israel and this solves nothing, more over it just makes things worse and probably helps gain some sympathy for iIsrael
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