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        It’s on the FB post that is cut off here. The uncensored version is floating around BlackSky.

        Edit: I missed that this isn’t the FB post. Someone took their picture from FB and reposted. But this is on BlackSky with the ladies names and a couple hashtags, one of which is “#BurntToACrisp”.

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    Hell ya let that thing burn! So happy for the people and the country. They should be proud of themselves.

    Ok now that y’all read thus far. Auschwitz, Alcatraz and a myriad insane asylums not burner down for very good reasons. But an old slave plantation and we’re all smiles…

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      That plantation, Nottoway, explicitly presented itself as romantic. When I visited, they had an exhibit about how kindly the old master was, because he gave the slave children candy at Christmas.

      It’s a place for rich white people to have weddings at, while being served by underpaid black people who are probably descendants of the people held there. They sold cotton in the gift shop - it was a sugarcane plantation. That’s something you do on fucking purpose.

      If you want a place that understands that it is Americans Auschwitz - Whitney Plantation. Amazing place that everyone in the American south should visit.

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        You can tell what their priorities are because the History section of their webpage had nothing in it but the age of the trees on the property.

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          Yes - the oak trees were a big deal. Touring the gardens was part of the house tour.

          They really try to make one of the daughters of the house a sort of princess/Southern Belle. The woman at the gift shop really encouraged me to pick this up, when we started talking about Gone With the Wind.

          I’ll have to flip through the ephemera collection to find some of the other “fun” things. Also got a coffee table book somewhere.

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      If the German government turned Auschwitz into a hotel and resort for people to throw parties and get married and ignore the atrocities that happened there, I’d be in favor of burning it down

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      Because goyim aren’t having weddings at auschwitz. If the plantations were treated as relics of antebellum brutality we wouldn’t celebrate their incineration, but instead they’re romanticized.

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      Alcatraz

      Considering that this administration is talking about reopening Alcatraz, uh… yeah, probably would have been better for everyone if it burned down.

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    Just a side note, just because the United States fought a war that most people think it was about slavery. It was not. The North profited off of slavery. This was all to consolidate power and build up the federal government, which nowadays is constantly overreaching into our lives. Also, it is very concerning given the divisive climate in our country and the accelerating powers of the executive branch with the erosion of checks and balances that possibly we are on the verge of another Civil War. It could be thought that given the rate of incarceration, we just don’t see the human suffering like we did back then. Maybe nothing’s really changed. And maybe white people, the poor whites are all a part of this system too. I mean, look around America. What do we have, but cheeseburger stands. And five lane highways going through our neighborhoods with monster trucks running over kids. I mean, in a very short period of time, I’ve had three incidents where I have been around firearms that put me in danger. Slavery was an inefficient, outdated system of Managing Society. The same powers that justified slavery are the same powers both left and right that run the country in the United States. Have y’all heard of a Dixie Democrat? For there is no war but the class war. I am a cracker, but there are black people that have the same opinion as me. And I get a lot of my theories based upon their opinions. No war but the class war libturds

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    Why do so many people talk like this post is about whether or not you should burn these down or not? Or how they should be maintained?

    Girls saw the burning plantation and took a selfie for the symbolic value of it. I don’t see them argue that people should destroy the historical evidence, or anything. They just took a strong symbolic Image and if you don’t like the symbolism in it, you are a weirdo.

    Can we just appreciate their picture? Think about its symbolism?

    And maybe then we can have the discussion about what to do with these things. People with no knowledge could start with listening. And if needed, they can add their perspective afterwards.

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      It’s like a mixture of Dada,Ephemerala and juxtaposition. Chef kiss. like these covert fascist think we want to erase history motherfucker I want to know where you are we just celebrate when idols are torn down.

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    The lead in the paint and who tf knows what else (eg covered up arsenic paint or wallpaper) is in that smoke. Seriously avoid breathing in smoke from home fires, it has unfathomably deadly stuff in it

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      Dude a place that old? Prolly has everything in it. Wouldn’t surprise me if a renovation in the 50s gave it some cadmium.

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    I don’t like this as a “stick it to em” thing. Personally, I want to see those women own that entire plantation, and transform it into a haven for the black community. If that means tearing it down, so be it. I want them to own that shit. I want the slave owning twats to be rolling in their graves over, not just a black person, but a black woman owning their shit.

    That said, amazing selfie lol

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    I didn’t realise slavery continued in the US until so recently, mid 1800s? Yikes.

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      More like mid-1900s.

      And yes, that’s talking about the the last chattal slave not being freed until 1942, not the same points others are making about prison slavery.

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      Even more shockingly, Mississippi only officially ratified the amendment to abolish slavery in… 1995.

      And only officially submitted the paperwork concerning said ratification to the US Archives in… 2013.

      No rush, guys. No rush.

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      Chattel slavery. Penal Slavery is still legal and targets mostly racial minorities.

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        It’s super important to really understand how fucked penal slavery and convict leasing is. When you think of American slavery you think of people working in a field and that it stopped with the civil war. It absolutely didn’t. They forced prisoners to work the fields after that.

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          California of all states voting to keep prison slavery legal in 2024 is how I know deep down inside we are truly well good and fucked.

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            probably need all those prisons to work for next to none to fight fires, or do govt work that nobody wants to work.

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      It’s still around.

      The amendment to USA’s constitution that “banned” slavery did so EXCEPT as punishment for a crime.

      USA also has astoundingly high incarceration rates per capita. Coincidence?

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      ITS STILL here, at least in very wasp areas, especially in country/golf clubs they still have hordes of African immigrants as “servers”, one english prof told me one time he dated a woman who im guessing is wealthy because they were eating at this country club, and all the severs there were African immigrants/migrants. and yes the people there that were in “high society were all white”

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        I understand what you are trying to say but isn’t it downplaying slavery (especially the racist slavery in this case) when equating it to seemingly racist hiring practices of country clubs? I would agree with you that it seems to be a romanization of the racist slavery. But slavery and a job is very different. The racism might be the same at its core but working in a job and working in slavery is very very different.

        I am not defending the clubs. I just think slavery is a word that shouldn’t be deluded as it should be understood as the horror that it is.

        If you think I am wrong, please let me know. Maybe my take is stupid.

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      don’t worry, maga white supremacist snowflakes are in the process of rewriting that history to say the slaves “wanted” to be here, because of “opportunities” they didn’t have in the home they “voluntarily” left to be here. so, they weren’t “slaves,” but “immigrant workers”