So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining…anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like “this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn’t in teh constitution” like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It’s literally stated in teh first amendment xD
Amendments aren’t part of the constitution… except the 2nd!
Maybe after religion has been abolished.
hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos
It’s already more successful
To be fair the casinos are a pretty low bar, but yeah…
That’s only because he isn’t the one handling the business, but those choads that wrote Project 2025. They just keep shoving EOs in front of him and he signs them.
I am a religious person even and this is insane. Do these people not read the Good Book? Trump is clearly the antichrist. And still all these chodes have… simp-pathy for the devil (because they simp so hard. I tried really hard to make that joke work this is the best I can do.)
Unfortunately, this is no joke. This needs to stop, or it will end very poorly.
100%, but gallows humor is my favorite kind
It’s fascinating how the new world now desires to be just like the old.
They’ll be all about “forgetting” about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they’ll be up in arms again.
By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars
What’s that? Did I hear somebody say Beelzebub’s Advanced Rifle Academy?
How about go fuck yourself.
Isn’t separating church and state really important?
Only if you care about the constitution, freedom, and/or democracy. It’s very clear MAGA does not care about any of that so here we are.
well he does also want to become pope. maybe he wants to multi class but what we really wish is if he dual classed.
But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?
The man should be investigated first for the most flagrant violations. I don’t know if holding a bible upside-down counts, but we can go on from there.
Most kings, dictators, emperors in history claimed to be gods themselves or at least to have been chosen by whatever gods were popular in their territories.
Generally none of these guys were big on following the moral teachings of “their” religion, more to claim that what they want is a direct emanation of the will of the gods, so it must just be accepted.
That’s why separation of Church and State is a thing in a working democracy and that’s (of f-ing course) why it’s now being targeted
…but I’m Jewish…
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Christian here.
Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
Your religion is rotten. I judge it by its fruit.
I know quite a few atheist pieces of shit.
Good for you. What does that have to do with Christianity being rotten?
Well we are just lumping groups together by their “rotten fruit” aren’t we?
The main difference between Christianity and atheism is that atheism is no organised movement. We don’t have a pope (no matter what Christians say about us, I don’t follow any of the so called “leaders” of the atheist movement like richard dawkins and his positions on the trans right movement for instance) and we don’t have a centralised structure, we simply don’t believe in ANY god.
On the other hand there is Christianity and all organised religions which, as the name suggests, are ORGANISED around a central set of dogmas which are intended to be accepted as gospel by all their members. If you’re part of one of such religions you implicitly accept all their teachings as true and you support their message and actions. If you don’t want to be lump in with all other cultists following these directions please remove yourself from this specific group or shut the hell up.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk, I’ll be here as long as needed
No, we’re describing a religion and what its followers behave like. Atheism isn’t a religion or a group. It’s a choice to refrain from belief in a god. Christianity has churches, pastors, and now presidents who lead their followers into morally reprehensible behavior. One is rotten fruit, the other is rejecting rotten fruit. It’s not the same.
Ok, so no room for me to prove I’m a good person?
None whatsoever?
I’m judged because of my beliefs, not my behaviour?
A good person doesn’t support their religion when their religion is creating fascism in their country.
A good person stands up and says to trump: Despite my beliefs, I denounce what you are saying and cast you out of my religion you heathen.
But this is not what we are seeing, is it? You are against trump, I assume, yet you still defend religion before you fight fascism. Maybe ask yourself why that is.
Good luck defending what trump does in the name of religion.
I said nothing about you as a person. My criticism is of your religion. If you’re taking it personally, that’s on your own conscience, and perhaps something you should reflect on.
I know quite a few human pieces of shit.
That’s not helpful right now.
Calling out Christians on their bullshit support of a fascist criminal that completely disrespects all of the values of their religion isn’t helpful?
@Inanimate_Carbon_Rod obviously doesn’t support that fascist. We need all the allies we can get, and you’re pushing them away.
He supports a religion that supports that fascist.
That’s whats great about spirituality, no one person can say what you believe other than you. Similarly, Christianity doesn’t have a single voice of authority.
We’re not talking about spirituality. I’m spiritual. We’re talking about organized religion, that has an awfully genocidal and hateful track record, with one halfway decent prophet who said some nice things, and also some completely incoherent things about being one with the hateful God of this religion.
Christ, if he was at all like his stories, was a pretty cool guy.
Shame Christianity co-opted his name.
Yeah, that’s why I said the religion is rotten. If I say an apple is rotten, people don’t usually respond by saying “Yeah but it came from a cool tree”.
The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a “Christian” state.
This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there’s no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.
Let’s just forget about the right to bear arms
Yeah! Let’s arm all the bears! My favorite one is the shotgun bear.
Some people like the Kodiak or Polar bears. Me, I like my Browning Bears with .50 BMG (Big Mean Grizzly)
Maybe if they bring back the church into politics he will learn who this Jesus guy is who everyone is talking about. Might be surprised that he was a “radical leftist”
He means American evangelist Christianity. Which is just capitalism with god. They are more interested on social control of masses and collecting tithe than any actual idealism.
It’s far bigger than tithe. The article explains that the white house god office is run by someone who will take $1000 payments to send angels to people. They brought on that fucking moron Ben Carson too, which makes me think this is more about persecution if gay and transgender people than anything else. Other than that they’re just making sure all the grifters (religious and MAGA) on the same team.
White supply-side Jesus is different from biblical Jesus which is different from historical Jesus.
There’s a pretty radical idea going on in wiccan circles right now that believes the “Jesus” these Christian Nationalists are worshipping is actually something called an egregore. Now, an egregore is a non-physical entity or “thought form”, created by the shared beliefs, emotions, and intentions of a group. What’s more, I’ve met people who claim to have interacted with this being.They claim that it truly believes it is Christ and wants you to believe it, too. It desperately wants into Heaven, and it is vain, and narcissistic, and ugly. It butters you up with false flattery, empty promises and lies, and, if the true spirit of Christ is with you, it calls that spirit Satan. If you recognize it for what it is, instantly like a toxic person it flips to anger and threats to scare you into getting it to believe.
Any god is an egregore, like any other thought or believe is. Santa, the black man, Allah, these are all egregore with more or less power according to the mental strength and energy of the believers which are part of these groups. Of course, as anything created by humans, egregore are fallible and presents various “defects” in their behaviours and actions. The most important thing is to always remember that egregores, being a byproduct of human though, are and always will be much less powerful than any human being. Take Yahweh or Allah and place it in front of an infant, they won’t be able to do shit as the child will be uneffected by the social knowledge about these entities and thus will be receptive to their true form, which is one of ethereal beings having no control on the physical world. Anything they can do they do because we give them the power to do so, once we realise they are no more powerful than a breeze through the leaves their power crumble and they return to be what they truly are, invisible and intangible leeches praying on our mental energy.
If you believe in spiritual teachings of course, otherwise please continue not believing in such things and cussing against god and/or the modern American Christian nationalist faith, the effect will be the same
I’ve always been interested in jungian archetypical symbology. It’s really amazing that these characteristics of humanity show up again and again as if it comes from the same well. I don’t know anything about egregore but I’ll have to certainly look into it. This is an interesting take, thanks.
So like a poltergeist, but created by an entire population?
The people who claim that America is a “Christian” nation don’t ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.
Not to mention, the King was considered to have a “Divine Right” to rule. I can see why the Founding Father’a weren’t too keen on mixing religion and government.
And Thomas Jefferson went out of his way to emphasis the separation of church and state.
I’m starting to feel that Donald Trump might not entirely live up to the bar set by Thomas Jefferson.
