Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
Off course, they found a way to integrate more Ai features.
ffs. Of course they had to slap AI on top of it. Goddammit.
Because you know it’s really hard naming your group yourself
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the inclusion of some small AI feature is what justified the rest of this work being done. As in, someone got approval for tab groups only because they were smart enough to describe it as “AI powered tab groups“. Just speculation
I had to enable them:
about:config->browser.tabs.groups.enabled->trueThank you for this. Now I know hire to turn them off.
But they’re off by default so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Not on my browser they aren’t. They just started offering to make groups one day, and while I want to tear out someone’s tongue for it, it would require far too much effort, and might just be a bit of an overreaction.
Same here. They also just went away on their own 😂
I’ve been using them for a few weeks now. Lifesaver as I try to organize stupid bullshit that life forces on me.
ok, mozilla is at least doing stuff we want along with ai garbage now.
Thankfully, the useful changes trickle downstream to Waterfox, LibreWolf, Floorp, etc.
the beauty of foss
AI garbage seemingly pays the bills…
Seems like it creates bills, but also has enough hype behind it to generate investment/donation interest.
At least the AI runs locally, as opposed to sending everything to someone else’s computer for processing. Local translation in Firefox actually works quite well.
Except right now you lose all of your open tabs if you close the browser with the “X” on pc or if you shut the computer down.
To make it save your open tabs right now, you have to click the … and then select “exit”.
I think that’s an issue with your install, when I shut down my computer or press the x it restores tabs fine next time I open it.
If it’s with the install, it’s from a bad/corrupted update. FF has been on there for ages. Are you on windows 10? I’ve seen it’s a known issue because it’s findable if you Google it. Be a strange bit of a corrupt install, being that it’s the only issue and that it works as expected if you select “exit” instead of hitting the “X”. Regardless, if you’re also on 64bit win10 system and it works normally for you, I’ll do a clean install.
Do you have “open previous windows and tabs” ticked in settings? I’m also on 64bit win10 without the issue you describe.
Yes. I’ve also tried un checking it, closing firefox, opening Firefox, re checking it, and it still only remembers my tabs if I “exit” Firefox instead of just hitting the X.
Since it’s not happening to everyone else with windows 10, I’m going to just do a clean instal and see if that fixes it.
Yes this is also on a 64 bit windows 10 install, so in theory yours should be functioning the same. Good luck getting that sorted as if you are like me and frequently use the same tabs that does sound like a pain
Can’t you restore them with Ctrl + shift + T or maybe Ctrl + shift + N ?
When I click history in the menu after reopening firefox, I have an option to restore previous session.
I’ve clicked history to get some pages back, but haven’t noticed a restore previous session option. Great if it’s there, but still a large bug that’s been present for quite a while.
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*here again. Let’s see how long it takes them this time to remove it again.
Was I signed up for some beta? I’ve had firefox groups for a few weeks now.
And holy shit do I need em.
They do A/B testing for everything now. Why? No clue.
A/B testing a very effective mass testing ground, I’m surprised some people don’t do it. Amazon is probably doing a few dozen a/b tests constsntly
Vivaldi: laughing in 2019
Firefox laughing in 2004 with anything else…
You mean laughing in before COVID
Opera had it before they dropped presto back in like 2013.
To be fair, the current Vivaldi team consists of a lot of the ones that made Opera Presto.
Interesting… So Vivaldi is like Opera 2.0?
It’s a spiritual successor, yes.
I am on Vivaldi now but after manifest v3? I’m very happy to see tab
stackinggrouping come to Firefox based browsers as that’s definitely the escape plan, possibly very soon.
I also asked for compact mode. Where’s that?
I’m saving all my tabs on a regular basis for 3 firefox pages. How does grouping tabs impact saving them? Does it create sub folders in the main saved tab folder?
Great. Now do Guest mode. It’s a must-have for places like libraries and internet cafes - if Firefox equalled Chrome in this regard it’d easily gain a percent on the market share scale.
Is Guest mode different from Private Browsing?
In fact - no, it’s just a reskin of incognito to make it not feel like you’re not watching porn.
Which might make it feel like a non-issue and a useless thing to add, but flip that around - it’s a low-cost, potentially very high-reward improvement. It really should’ve been implemented ages ago.
The only things that need to be changed is the new tab page and the toolbar - both design “improvements”.
Sorry, I’m not totally following here.
What is Guest mode, exactly? Esp if not just a containerized session that clears all cookies, history, and personal data when closed.
It literally is just Incognito (Private browsing), a little reskinned. Pretty much a temporary container living as long as the Ghest window - just like Incognito.
I feel like this feature is a good idea that has come too late for me. I already “group” stuff via windows. That’ll be a hard habit to break.
I miss Panorama so much!
Do you use an add-on to prevent that from wiping out all but one window’s worth of tabs when you close them? That’s what originally made me get a tab grouping addon, after losing a ton of tabs when I broke some out into their own window and then later closed the main tab window before the secondary one. Realized immediately what happened but it was already too late to save that entire generation of precious tabs. Who knows what articles I didn’t feel like reading at the time but was totally going to read later I lost forever.
I close all windows at once via the Quit feature, then it re-opens all of them. You can trigger that from the menubar (press Alt to unhide it) in the “File” menu at the bottom.
You can also re-open a closed window from the “History” menu in that menubar.These might also be available in the hamburger menu. I’ve got that hidden, so can’t check easily…
I either let the OS close firefox and then it opens all windows when I next start firefox. Or I use ctrl+shift+n to reopen the last closed window
Ctrl+Q terminates the whole program at once and you don’t lose any windows.
Oh btw, just like Ctrl+shift+t reopens closed tabs, so Ctrl+shift+n reopens whole windows, with all tabs.
Interesting, though you can also just keep pressing Ctrl+Shift+T and it’ll eventually restore entire windows in the reverse order of closure, whether tab or window.
“You asked, we built it” = “Your data is profitable, so we slapped AI on it and feign altruism”.
This is mostly useless to me; I already enforce all tabs into unique containers to isolate browsing and website contexts from one another; while still allowing me to make exceptions to the rule and “unbreak” things if that’s causing an issue, but still keeping things isolated from the rest of the browsing.
As for Tab Management; I use two windows and a plugin; Tab Stash Plus; which collapses tabs I stash into a bookmark.
Every so often when I reach a critical mass of tabs I personally go through them and play “Keep/Toss” with more odds on Toss. Only useful tabs get stashed and are then searchable from the plugin.
In general; since this feature now presents a possibility of an extremely UNWANTED AI integration I will be setting the config to off and leaving it off…using a relevant config policy tool or plugin to enforce this to off if needed. I hate AI features that I didn’t ask for and this one definitely doesn’t seem like it’s going to be helpful nor compatible with my current workflow.
So uhh, when are you introducing PWAs and easier profile management?
Isn’t profile management introduced like right now in the same release?
Is it? I will check when I am on my PC again.
