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Why does this look like it’s been photocopied more times than my geography teachers lesson plan?
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Yes. A quite recent example from Germany:
Letzte Generation (Last Generation) a group of climate activists which glued themselves onto streets, usually carefully planned, organized and communicated with emergency services (such that ambulances can pass). They just got all of the hate and achieved not really much.
Then there were some farmers who were unhappy about governmental advances to reduce or remove the “agricultural diesel” subsidies. They’ve blocked highway entrace ramps with burning car tyres and dung, went really hardcore compared to the Letzte Generation, and finally got what they wanted.
Maybe the farmers just had an “easier” goal. Just remove the taxes again but the last generation wanted to stop climate change which isn’t just done with one small step…
The issue with peaceful protests is that they usually don’t go far enough.
In your example, the farmers went two steps further and it made the difference.
Having the support of major news media and the lobby arm of Big Agriculture (who partially incited the riots) surely helped more than their methods.
Absolutely, so people that don’t have that should inconvenience people more.
Some dorks in this thread are the perfect example of who potential protesters need to ignore.
I brought up “truckers blocking highways and important intersections” to my very good (but desperately clueless) friend. Violence free, requires few bodies, historically effective.
He said “but what about the people they inconvenience?”
I’m like dude. Inconvenience to power is. the. point.
I love him but he’s a fool, guy thinks protests are people smiling and holding clever signs.
Sad thing is he’s representative of a lot of people.
They’ll be happy when things are better but idgaf about asking their advice. They don’t read history, the closest theyll get to a protest is the news coverage, and they’ll never be satisfied with less than some impossible dream of a “immaculate
conceptionprotestation”So like, fuck em
Not to sound elitist, but most people are ill-informed from what I observed. They mean well, but they form their views and opinions from sources that aren’t great. It doesn’t help either that we are inundated by pleasures from all sorts of media, which distracts us from paying attention to what matters more.
It’s only a rebellion if you lose.
“Rebellion” used to be a positive term (think Star Wars but in real life).
It’s not civil disobedience when the other side isn’t being civil.
People are dying from treatable or preventable illness, suffering from homelessness, and suffering from food insecurity. These are all forms of violence.
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“Why Civil Resistance Works” is a good book about why civil disobedience is the most effective means of resisting a regime. It’s not an easy read, but it’s still great info.
I don’t mind riots, so long as it’s targeted in some way, and not just the random breaking down of privately owned small businesses (which hurts no-one at the top).
Riots are grenades. You don’t get to precisely target what gets broken and what doesn’t.
A certain percentage of any group doesn’t give a fuck about the movement and just likes being assholes.
Either rioters police their own or they will be judged as equal to the worst of them, because that’s all people will be shown on TV.
Hahaha mandem thinks there’s still going to be small businesses in the future
That’s a feature not a contradiction
Marx and his permanent revolution.
The ends justify the means. Not a moral statement on ‘doing whatever it takes’ - it is meaningless to win when the victors are no different from the victims.
Rather, an observation on the nature of what it is to be justified or vilified.
The ones at the end decide. When it is happening, it is never justified. It is never tolerated. It is vilified. It is criminal. The means are always painted as extremes.
Something new can only ever be justified when you reach the end. Until then, it - literally - is radical.
To the present, you’re just a person stirring up trouble. Could be good, could be bad, but either way, it’s trouble.
You can only ever be a hero to history.
So you’re saying someone should do it?
Is there some reason this looks like a photocopy of a faxed photocopy? And no alt text or link to source: is OP just trying to break accessibility out of perverse joy? I wonder what they did to OP to deserve that.
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