This must be the worst copied image ever. The mouse pointer is visible, the artists name it cut. Why not just show the whole picture like here https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-148723203/view ?
At least most of the artist’s name is still visible, I’ve seen a lot of comic posts that completely remove it.
I would argue its more how much you’re a part of the in group. Compared to a man a woman is in the out group. Compared to a white woman a black man is in the out group. The person in the outgroup is just the aggressive one. Gender is only one dimension IMO.
That depends on the make up of the group just as much as the make up of the person
Your white male KKK neighbour isn’t assertive
That’s why I generalized it based on the in and out group dynamics.
I am unsure of the point you are trying to make.
Your post focuses on people being in the out group
It comes off as racist/sexist
Compared to a man a woman is in the out group. Compared to a white woman a black man
I’m sorry those statements offend you cause you can’t understand the point I’m trying to make Go enjoy some boobies and feel better. Or don’t.
You don’t have to apologize, just in the future don’t paint minorities as outsiders
It normalizes hate
Sure good job talking over minorities tho.
I try
Unless you’re a short man. Then you’re just compensating or have Napoleon complex or something.
Or Short-Man Syndrome. I have a 6’4" friend who used to joke about SMS, until I pointed out several men we know who behave the same way, but are tall, and asked what syndrome they have. Kudos to him, he started seeing the discrimination, and now uses his “tall privilege” in group discussion settings to direct attention to the short members when the group ignores/talks over them.
Make you being short their problem when they make it yours. Hot potato that shit
When a man gives his opinion, he’s a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she’s a bitch.
Are you saying all women that give opinions are bitches? Yikes. Why do you think that way?
He’s explaining the sexists’ train of thought, not endorsing it himself.
This guy is a troll, he didn’t deserve your explanation
Wat?
The joke is they both wore pajamas to work.
Boomer humor/“everything I don’t like is woke” humor
Maybe, but I’d like to understand the joke / “joke”, if there’s anything to understand. It could be just “hurdur, I insulted them by saying gender because they’re young” or maybe there really is some kind of reasoning.
What it seems like the “joke” is at:
If you are assertive but a man, wokes will call you aggressive. If you are assertive but a woman, wokes will applaud you.
Or so I understand the underlying logic, can be wrong ofc.
I’m pretty sure the joke is the exact opposite, that the same behavior that’s treated as assertive if a man does it is treated as aggressive coming from a woman.
That does sound like a right-winger 🤔 Best guess I’ve seen so far. Thanks.
It’s actually a comic strip by Judy Horacek from 1999 about how assertiveness in women is viewed as aggressive and discouraged, while it is encouraged in men
Thanks. @[email protected] really should’ve provided a source…
Lol
So a man punching someone in the face is just assertive? Never knew that.
I’m confused, is this talking about the grillies or the kitchenettes?
Now I need some answers, what’s those terms??
The stereotype goes that men grill and women cook. “Grillies” looks like “girlies” at first glance, establishing subversion
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There’s way more nuance to that, even off the top. Men are absolutely allowed to have a voice as seen by all the male dominated spaces. The big issue is whether you are punching up or down. It’s why conservative comedians are such failures, all their jokes target marginalized people with crass stereotypes and unfounded nonsense, and they leave the stage to continue acting on those ideas.
In those too few spaces where men are actually held accountable then yes, they are seen as aggressive. Part of the issue is that the male idea of “being ignored” these days is completely off-balance and you can see that so starkly in the outrage whenever we aren’t the center of attention in media. And then we get told this and our first reactions are to get extremely defensive, followed by many continuing to be defensive.
Men are not the victims here; we started it and are unwilling or highly resistant to sharing the space we got too comfortable in while women and minorities were left outside.
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It sounds very much like mostly live in circles where people would be accepting of who you are, and those people would also be the ones who would make space for and encourage women and minorities.
The comic is referring to how women too often get called “dramatic”, “too sensitive”, or “hysterical” when they are justifiably mad at something. As far as the powerful people in the western world are concerned women are aggressive and disruptive and men are simply standing their ground. The idea is that sure they’re weak and whatever…until they argue with a man in power or not in power but still very insecure about it. Makes it easy to dismiss them when they’re quiet and easy to dismiss them when they’re loud.
The damsel in distress is an old stereotype that helps reinforce that from a time when women weren’t allowed to be anything else(and honestly one can argue that we’re still in that time). Like how trans and/or gay people “didn’t exist” but actually it was more because people in power didn’t want them to be remembered. Of course women weren’t speaking up all that much, even today so many stay quiet when abused because they fear retribution, so obviously something must be wrong with them if they break from the stereotype and actually get mad. Male violence is practically celebrated, though, so it takes so much more for society to say they’ve crossed into aggression.
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So, again, you’re talking about a highly specific community that is way more likely to be filled with young progressives who are still getting through the edgy teen phase but are also far more likely to come from privileged, white backgrounds. I have never argued that there are places which go opposite to the comic but that’s not how society at large behaves.
How well did you pass in Florida? There’s also the sad fact that people not accepting you will see you as a man and their monkey brains will run with that, especially if you’re bigger and/or have a deeper voice.
I don’t really know how you’ve just somehow missed the entire, long history of oppression and dismissal of women by whatever excuse fits in the moment.
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You are a big fat fucking liar who is trying to deny women a voice because a black MAN might get overshadowed. Fuck off and die misogynist.
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Anyone who downvoted this is clueless.
I got the comic but I’m pretty clueless in general. I’m not totally sure what I’m meant to do in that case so I downvoted your comment to be safe.
Explain it to us.
Women who are assertive in the workplace are described as aggressive, bitches, things of that nature. Men who are assertive in the workplace are described as confident or having leadership skills, that sort of thing.
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Thank you for explaining absolutely nothing. “oh look, someone has a question? will I answer it or call them an idiot? let me be completely unhelpful and call them an idiot”.
That’s not an explanation.
