• JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    I wonder how much higher that rate is than the national average when accounting for demographics.

    • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      10 months ago

      That was my first thought too but the total is globally, so it seems like quite a small number even when considering trans people account for ~1.4% of the world population which would be about 113,036,000 people.

      Man that’s fucked up.

      “Good news! Proportionally, less trans people were murdered!”

      • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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        10 months ago

        That’s why I said accounting for demographics. There are proportionaly more trans people in richer countries where murders are also lower. But I don’t know how one would do that full demographic comparison.

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          10 months ago

          There are proportionaly more trans people in richer countries

          There are proportionally more openly identified trans people in richer countries

      • flashpanda@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 months ago

        So if you dig into the actual data, they point out that this is probably far from the actual number of murders, since it is only reported, and not all jurisdictions participate. One concerning thing though that I saw was that 94% of all the reported murders were of trans women.

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          10 months ago

          And almost half were sex workers. I would bet that the real number is much greater, considering the numerous countries that wouldn’t be recording the person as being trans. Due to the stigma associated, I’m guessing that it’s more likely sex workers will be designated as ‘trans’ rather than general population, due to the conservative nature of many countries.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        113,036,000 people would be a respectable size for an entire country. That would be an interesting country to live in.

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      They’re definitely a small part of the population, and rates are always more informative than raw numbers.

      That said, we know that people are targetted for violence simply for being trans.

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    10 months ago

    A rise in racism? Transphobia isn’t racism, right? It’s equally as short-sighted and fucking stupid, but it’s not the same.

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      10 months ago

      The article mentions that 80% of those murdered were also affected by racism. In Europe almost half of those murdered were refugees or immigrants.

      They’re a racial minority or migrant. That increases their risk.

      They’re trans. That increases their risk even further.

      They’re also often sex workers. That increases their risk even further.

      Basically super vulnerable and marginalised minorities, who often can’t turn to the police for help.

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    10 months ago

    Isn’t that a lower rate than cis people?

    Like worldwide, even if only 0.1% of people are trans (an intentional underestimate for conservative numbers) that’s a murder rate of 4.3 per 100k people. The worldwide average is 7.5.

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    10 months ago

    I keep saying this: marginalized and discriminated people are the best ones to own firearms.

    Don’t trust a society that hates you to protect you.

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      10 months ago

      Then why isn’t America the safest country in the world?

      You’re not repeating some deep wisdom to enlighten poor oppressed idiots who just don’t know how cool guns are, you’re repeating marketing slogans for a gun lobby who worked out they can sell hero fantasies to leftists too.

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    10 months ago

    And how many cis men were killed in the same period worldwide? Numbers like this are meaningless if not normalized.

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      10 months ago

      Not that it’s a competition, but the article mentions this number being far lower than the actual number, so you can’t make a fair comparison.

      This is basically a case of some countries and places giving enough of a shit about trans people being murdered, to bother recording how prevalent it is for the first time. Plenty of places, given these are often sex workers, they’d just let them rot in a ditch and mark it down as unknown causes when they find the remains.

      A lot of male homicide is also gang related. That’s different than being murdered by a client or partner, because of your gender identity. A bit like how Jewish people may be less likely to be murdered, but that doesn’t mean it’s not noteworthy when someone burns down a synagogue and kills Jews because of their ethnicity.

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        10 months ago

        You see this all over the place with how things are culturally counted. Like how driveby shootings are not counted by a lot of US statistical data as mass shooting in the US because they are more interested in the phenomenon of a targeted usual murder suicide of a very specific terrorist style execution… but other countries will record drive bys as notable mass shootings for their data.

        A lot of places have law enforcement that are very invested in not participating in things that could harm their reputations so not participating in recording data points that assist in the conclusion that a genocide is occurring makes it easier to sweep issues under the rug.