• kshade@lemmy.world
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    3 天前

    You could fit an entire modern OS in that space, together with all the drivers, a web browser, an office suite, graphics editor, an IDE and a compatibility layer for running Windows applications.

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      Yup, my Linux install is a bit over 10GB, which honestly surprises me and means I probably should clean stuff up, because usually my Linux base install is around 8GB. After a quick look, I have several old versions of compilers and runtimes that can be cleaned up w/o breaking anything.

      I can’t imagine thinking that an 8GB cache is fine, and that’s nothing compared to the size of the rest of the OS…

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        Or if you’re into online gaming.

        I have to fend off linux nerds with a bat. The bottom line is “that’s cool and all but there are a lot of things that I can’t do with linux and I’m not willing to make that big of a change”

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              I heard there were issues with those, but not sure on the specifics

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                Most games with anti-cheat refuse to run on Linux even if the anti-cheat itself supports it. And some anti-cheats just don’t work on Linux anyway, I believe the ones that do only support it by just not running when they detect they’re on Linux. If you’re interested you can check which games are supported here: https://areweanticheatyet.com/ but bear in mind it could change at any time (for example Rockstar broke GTAV a few weeks ago)

        • sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          It’s an adoption problem. My company only supports windows because all our customers use windows. All our customers use windows because all their vendors only support windows.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            Potential solutions:

            • move to web-based SW - platform-agnostic, so it’s pretty easy to support other OSes (oh, and you get mobile almost for free)
            • start submitting patches to get stuff working on macOS and Linux - once the barrier to supporting other OSes is low enough, they may let you officially support it
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              I get that there are solutions to the problem, but there’s no way a team of 10 can port 35 years of win32 dependence and keep the business solvent. Maybe incrementally, over the course of 10-15 years. We’re just now migrating off of .NET 4.8 because we use WCF so much.

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                Depending on the implementation, WCF can be really easy to adapt to new clients. If you wanted to support Linux, macOS, or web, you just implement the part of your service that make sense for those platforms.

                I obviously don’t know your app at all, but it sounds like a 10 person dev team could probably build a new app in just a few months since the backend is already there. It wouldn’t have all of the features, but generally speaking it’s a lot easier to rebuild an app than refactor an existing one. Whether that would bring value is another concern entirely.

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            That’s why I put the (larger) there - if you are a small company maybe you can not keep up a separate office infrastructure from your deployment / test systems in case of SW development. If you are a large enterprise and use Microsoft infrastructure, then either the people making the decisions in IT are getting a lot of bribes, or they are really really stupid :) Or both.

            And I mean that absolutely without anger against Microsoft, and purely in terms of security nightmare and waste of office productivity because using a contemporary windows system wastes so much more time of any given user that each desk worker probably loses 20-70% productivity compared to a lean operating system (and that would include something like Windows 2000 / XP).

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        With the amount of money corporations and governments have spent on Microsoft — the last decade alone — they could have filled the gaps in linux and the annual cost for ITSM would be significantly cheaper. Instead they’ve spent more and have grown far more dependent on proprietary software, they don’t own or control, to manage their core business ops and data; the longer their dependence on SaaS, the more they’ll pay.

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          Yep, Imagine how good the software would be oif we had all the governments and enterprise paying into open source instead of Microsofts pocket.

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      There was a former employee that talked about it, they moved from actually testing on real hardware to automated VM testing and started missing a lot more

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    This is the third update in like six months that is horribly broken. There was a windows 10 update that wouldn’t install because the recovery partition that Microsoft’s installer created was too small. The prior win 11 update just won’t install for lots of people and there’s no real rhyme or reason. Now this crap.

    They just don’t give a shit anymore. Microsoft had a great run folks, time to move on.

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      I have avoided Win 11 by disabling TPM in BIOS. Because I expect MS would eventually figure out some way to install 11 otherwise.

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        Just so you know, if your UEFI isn’t password protected, Windows can change settings in there. I haven’t heard of that ever happening but I wouldn’t be surprised if it would some day.

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      I’m honestly waiting for a crowdstrike level BSOD from one of their updates at some point. At that level, corporations would recover in the same way they did from crowdstrike, but consumers who didn’t understand how to roll back, or restore from backup, restore windows, etc would be livid and hopefully it would create some awareness on better understanding and control of the products you buy and use

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        Microsoft has largely mitigated this concern by pushing all their fresh updates to the consumers for testing before pushing them to their sensitive business customers.

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      I’d say they started the misstepping after they “fixed” Vista with windows 7. After that, they tried to hard instead of slow rolling. Windows 10 was good but 11 is just…windows 8 again.

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      Remember the dozens of times a Windows 10 update could potentially wipe your personal data?

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    Hi. Microsoft employee here. That’s happening because we don’t give a shit and we are being replaced by folks from India

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      I hope you’re having an amazing day! I am a windows fan and user, just like YOU! I will do my very best to help you solve your issue. I know you have had a bad experience and it must have been very hard for you. But rest assured, i will help you to the BEST of my ability!

      Please try running the troubleshooter.

      (troubleshooter doesn’t fix anything)

      Try reinstalling windows. Goodbye!

      And then they fuck off and stop reponding.

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        It’s better than the Linux Mint support forums that blocks VPN users and the power users just deny that they’re blocking VPN users.

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        This is every forum response on MS forums, it’s infuriating.

        “I have super specific error code with super specific driver that was changed with super specific windows update.”

        “Me too!”

        “Same, here’s some more info from event viewer”

        “Maybe try uninstalling the device”

        “Uninstall my WiFi card?”

        “Hi I’m bob from Microsoft you should run sfc scan now and that will fix it”

        “That didn’t fix it”

        “Ok here’s how to reinstall windows”

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      As someone working in the Microsoft ecosystem at an MSP, we seriously wonder what the fuck goes on over there. We’re supposed to defend everything y’all do which is getting really hard to justify without sounding like idiots.

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        Hey there. Learn how to stop carrying. A job doesn’t define who you are and you’re at least free to be anyone outside the working hours.

        I learned to be a cog in this inhumane machine in exchange for a paycheck

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      As former MSFT employee who just got replaced by India… I’m kind of relieved I’m gone. Working for them felt like working for the bad guys

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        What did you expect? That corps would solve climate change or what?

        The pigs on the very top are secured and that’s enough

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      Yeah, I’ve been avoiding this stuff the past few months by only letting my laptop online for quick essentials things. It’s windows, I can’t replace it with a mac so it’s gotta be linux. Most online stuff I can do on my phone. But I can’t put it off forever; I’m going to have to try the linux dual boot thing sooner or later. I’ve been putting it off because I’ve not used linux since the 90s and I really don’t have time to re-learn. Gotta be done tho.

      Edit - your semicolon inspired me to try one of my own!

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        I have nothing to add to this conversation, but properly used semicolons always make me smile.

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        dual boot is very simple and stable, I’ve been using Ubuntu / windows 10 for years after following a 10-minute YouTube video and basically only switch over to windows for games.

        It’s a great setup overall If there are some windows applications you prefer or are more convenient.

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        I never used linux and was surprised how easy and almost seamless the transiton was.

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      How is fractional scaling on Mint? On Ubuntu 24.04 it’s really crap (slow, blurry, flickering cursor, weird artifacts etc)

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          Okay so how is it with Cinammon, mate xfce? I know it’s crap with Wayland and Xorg especially with nvidia drivers.

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            I have had no issues with desktop apps with AMD integrated graphics. Tried 150%, 175%, and 200% scaling. Running Mint with Cinnamon.

            Games will sometimes run at 100%, though. Making their text tiny.