Do you have a criteria for what qualifies as block-worthy offence or are you just doing it when you feel like it?
Bonus question: how long is your block list?
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I have 85 people blocked. Most of them for spamming, probably. The rest for harshing my mellow by aggressively being assholes to others or just because I’ve realized my personal experience is more pleasant with their absence.
I don’t owe my attention to anyone. I see lots of comments here about refusing to censor alternate points of view, but that’s not it. I can enjoy healthy disagreement, but some folks make some agenda their entire identity and I just get tired of them constantly injecting it into every conversation.
On the other hand there’ve been many people I’ve disagreed with, engaged with, found some common ground, and continue to enjoy their presence even knowing we don’t see eye to eye. Or, if they post about other things, I just ignore the rants I disagree with. It’s not filtering out points of view, it’s filtering out people whose presence makes Lemmy a source of stress rather than an interesting, vibrant community. That’s obviously very subjective, but it’s my block list and my peace of mind.
The people who constantly post about Gaza in every single thread are the worst in this regard. While yes, the genocide isn’t okay and it should be discussed, there’s a time and place and it doesn’t need to be brought up everywhere in every discussion. Many of them are needlessly hostile when this is brought up to them and you just get labeled a genocide supporter. Sometimes I just want to scroll and read threads without hearing about children dying all the time. Gaza is their entire personality and it seems like nothing else matters to them in their lives.
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I block assholes. It drives me up the wall when someone is disrespectful for no reason. I also dislike those who get unnecessarily aggressive on the first message because the previous comment doesn’t align with their views. I’ll usually set a boundary and let people correct their attitude. After that, I’ll block.
I’m also considering blocking those who make a hobby of subverting the previous comment by twisting people’s words and overloading them with something the person did not mean to say, but those are trickier.
People that are needlessly hostile, and persistent on continuing their hostility get blocked. I’ve only needed to do that 1 or 2 times on Lemmy since I already blocked the most overtly hostile instances.
Same. I probably won’t even notice if I keep running into them making the place toxic, but if they just want to argue or be offensive and won’t stop, yeah I’ve blocked a couple
- Genocide denial
- Fascism
- Racism
- Bad-faith arguments
- Really really stupid & low effort
- Consistently really really negative
- Vote manipulation
- Spam, CSAM
I’ve banned 1074 accounts from the instance I run, most of them for boring reasons like spam. Usually between 1 and 10 per day.
Furries, gay porn, sports, and posts in languages I don’t understand.
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There are loads of vegans that are lovely, reasonable people, but unfortunately they get shadowed by the much less reasonable outspoken ones.
I’m a “carny” btw
Ad hominem -> block.
I once blocked someone who gave me unsolicited advice on how to cook a chicken.
I don’t block people because I think it’s important to understand that people have different viewpoints and ways of articulating them
Right. Blocking people for no other reason than “I disagree” or “I don’t like that” turns the place in to an echo chamber. Like, if that’s what you want, fine, but one reason I left Reddit was to get out of the echo chamber.
My blocklist is 30~40 users long. [For reference, my blocklist in Reddit reached 400 or so.]
To keep it short, I typically block people who, egregious or consistently:
- show lack of reasoning, even if I agree with the conclusion
- misrepresent what others say
- take things off context to judge them, even if I agree with the judgement
- vomit lots of “hard” certainty on things that they cannot reasonably know (e.g. the others’ emotional states over the internet)
- engage in passive aggressiveness (note that I tolerate some clear hostility, just not pass-aggro)
- show clear signs of sealioning (e.g. “I don’t understand” + misrepresentation of what someone else said)
- tell others shit like “trust me” = “I expect you to be a gullible piece of rubbish”
Note that “egregious or consistently” are key words here. Like, I’m not going out of my way to block someone out of a brainfart; this is not some sort of petty revenge, it’s just removing from my sight people who I believe to not contribute with my overall Lemmy experience. I also don’t take issue when people block me, for whatever reason they might have.
Sealioning is a made up term by those too lazy to explain a concept and looking to antagonise others because they “cannot possibly be unaware of X fact that I care so much about”.
Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.
I don’t on Lemmy because it doesn’t really do anything besides hiding their posts. On Mastodon I block people who are AI trolls, political trolls, reactionaries, and in general people who are hostile. People who are objectively horrible people, sometimes it’s because I see them doing it, but other times because they lashed out directly at me. Most blocks on Mastodon are preceded by reports to server admins but I still block them because it usually takes time for people to be moderated.
it doesn’t really do anything besides hiding their posts.
That’s what I need it to do. Out of my sight. Doesn’t matter if they can still see my posts. I hope they write me a lot of long and nasty messages that I never see.
You don’t find it limiting you can only talk to people who fit your understanding of acceptable conversation?
Nah, there is no point interacting with people who are pro Israeli military action. Supportive of Israel sure whatever but the people who are happy that they are actively killing civilians and think it’s justified, just aren’t people that are worth talking to, discussing, or arguing with. You’re never going to be able to make them less shitty, all interacting with them is going to do is make your day worse. So block away, because conversation needs to be a two way street. If it’s already one way, may as well not have any traffic on it at all.
This goes for any vitriolic and aggressive people, not just active genocide supporters, they’re just usually the ones I end up blocking. Tankies too but since I filtered ml I see way less of that shit.
Well I’d say what you are describing is similar to using a screwdriver to hammer in a nail, and then giving up after the 5th time fails.
Its not the goal thats impossible, its your methods. There are people changing peoples minds out there but they aren’t doing it with unwavering arguments and unbeatable logic.
Can I hammer a nail with my forehead? Maybe, if I try enough times. However, it fucking hurts, and there are literally thousands of nails to go. It just is not worth the personal cost.
I guess thats gonna be true until you find a hammer I suppose.
Dickheads saying Harris isn’t left enough so they’re going to go with the orange fascist instead. Just fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
“… Harris isn’t left enough so they’re going to go with the orange fascist instead.” The level of political illiteracy needed to create that line of thought is staggering. “ My right-of-centre candidate isn’t as socialist as I’d like so I’ll vote for the candidate who is massively and dangerously further to the right of her.” What the actual fuck? It’s people like that who make me question the value of democracy.
I think it’s a mix of trolling and sheer idiocy.
I’ve never blocked someone. Idk why. Maybe too much action for something that doesn’t make any big difference.
This isn’t meant to judge over people who block others, there could be good reasons like stalking etc.
I don’t block anyone because I do not like to shove other perspectives out of view and pretend they don’t exist. Also I grew up on old internet where having a thick skin was a necessity.
There are other reasons to block people than to hide differing viewpoints.
If you’re talking about people who do illegal or objectively terrible things, this is a terrible use case. As Lemmy’s block system is really meant only as a feed curation tool. It’s for things that you “don’t wike and don’t wannna to see 👶”. So to use it on people who are actually bad actors is not a good idea, and certainly isn’t a good idea to encourage its use in that manner. After all if everybody ignores these people and nobody reports them then they are allowed to run wild for much longer if not indefinitely. That’s why reporting is encouraged, it helps take care of bad faith users.
I think a lot of people need to get used to the idea that it is partially their responsibility to deal with bad faith users by reporting. On big tech platforms it didn’t make much of a difference because they didn’t care, instance admins here do care though, and many don’t have the legal defenses that those companies have especially when it comes to illegal shit that might be posted by some of these awful depraved individuals. Let them know about it sooner rather than later, report the trolls.
Apologies if I came off as a bit harsh.
I understand this, but I think one of the prevailing uses for blocking has sadly become to shove away voices that one wishes not to hear.
