• beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Nine out of ten people with enough money and power to steer the system to massively favour them think that things are perfectly fine as they are. Now carry on, peon.

  • Kvoth@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I do somewhat disagree with this. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very much on the eat the rich train. But, while not due to elons personal “brilliance” space x has cut the cost of going to space by a huge amount. And so many amazing things have come out of the space program

    • SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Sure, if by “Elon’s brilliance” you mean decades of Congress forcing NASA to outsource plus a whole lot of engineers none of whom are also CEO

    • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      The fact is, one thing has pretty much nothing to do with the other. The wealth gap between the wealthiest individuals on Earth and the rest of us is not the cause of poverty; in fact, as you go back in time long term, the wealth gap shrinks, while overall poverty goes up.

      And what you mention about Space X is one example of the ‘rising ride lifts all ships’ phenomena that makes things better for all of us overall long term.

      The fact that fulfilling three extremely-doable conditions: graduating high school, not getting married before the age of 21, and not having children before getting married, make your chances of being impoverished as an adult next to nothing, makes it even more obvious that billionaires are not the cause of poverty.

      Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of increases in net worth of billionaires is created wealth (as in, if it didn’t happen, that wealth wouldn’t belong to someone else, it just wouldn’t exist at all).

      The real issue is the eradication of poverty. It’s impossible to prevent someone from being at the top, and that top being exponentially higher than the average, in a society where wealth is so ‘create-able’ (and the fact that it is is a good thing, imo!), that position is always going to exist. But as we’ve seen over the past 50-100 years, it is very possible for that wealth gap to not only exist, and grow, and have the percentage of human beings who are impoverished shrinking, at the same time.

  • ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Billionaires and starving people tend to live in different countries though. What ever makes someone a billionaire in the US isn’t probably the same thing that makes someone else starve in Africa. One could even say that thanks to the wealthy westerners there’s less and less starving people in those places. There’s been a huge decrease in world wide poverty over the last few decades.

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Yeah it’s a shitty system. But it is objectively the best system. All the other systems lead to massive death. Like, lots and lots of death.

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I know it’s hard to hear, but nobody is starving in the USA.

    I know it really sucks because it would be so satisfying to say people are starving, but I’m sorry to inform you that it is not happening.

  • hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The fact that progressives have decided to hate the space industry, probably because Elon is a prominent figure in it, really rubs me the wrong way. It’s regressive bullshit under the guise of a moral assertion.

    Honestly I’ve noticed a lot of anti intellectualism from progressives over the past few years. You guys hate STEM, hate emerging tech, and hate people who work in emerging tech. While they stress “being informed”, all that really means is watching some 15 minute YouTube clip from a comedian pretending to be a journalist or reading an article from an obviously biased website, then adopting all the assertions as their own viewpoints.

    If anyone disagrees with that worldview, they are ridiculed for being either morally or intellectually inferior. Usually there’s some literal schoolyard level insult thrown in. I don’t like the cyber truck, but calling anyone who drives it a “cybercuck” is the kind of shit I would expect from middle schoolers.

    It’s absolutely exhausting.