Edit: @[email protected] solved it. It says “one special character”. Not “at least one”.

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    It’s fucking insane that an internet banking portal has such a low cap on max characters and such shitty rule enforcement.

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      Their desktop site is even more shitty. It won’t allow right click or paste actions. There goes compatibility with password managers.

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        Bitwarden has a function where it types in (not pastes) the password and shows the prompt for it without right-click.

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            Nice find, thanks for sharing.

            For Macs (only Macs, I believe), there is StopTheMadness, which, uh well, stops the madness (test page here for some examples it can re-enable).

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            On Mac you can use Hammerspoon and just create a shortcut to hs.eventtap.keyStrokes(hs.pasteboard.getContents())

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        As a super secret dev hack may I introduce you to shift + insert a fair few sites specifically block ctrl + v instead of properly disabling the clipboard action and, of course, if you read this and then submit a Jira ticket to block shift + insert… well… h8u

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          I usually to in the developer tools and manually disable the thing preventing the paste action. It’s usually a string to remove some JS or something or an Event that you need to uncheck

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            If you’re opening up the dev tools you can also paste your string directly into <input value="" /> unless something weird is going on.

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          Aah… I completely forgot about that. Will try next time. Also yesterday I saw Shift + F10 will show the context menu. Yet to test it on this site.

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        Any password manager should be able to “type in” the password. Or be a browser plugin that doesn’t rely on copy pasting, but use other mechanisms to inject it directly into the field.

        But yes, if that’s their online portal, I am not kidding I would change banks.

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      Some internet banking sites give access after only asking for login password. They will only ask for transaction password and OTP (that will only come on phone) later on. Asking for two passwords isn’t necessarily more secure since many people will just reuse their original one again. And OTP instead of offering something like hardware security key is insane.

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      Visa has a hard limit of 8 and requires the first 4 to be numbers because the phone tree might require it as a password

      The whole banking industry is ridiculous and is ridiculously legislated

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        USAA has 8-12 ONLY. My smallest memorized password algorithm is 13 characters, that I typically use for throwaways, doesn’t even fit.

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      The ERP software I have to use has a strict limit of 6 characters as password. Only alphabet and numbers allowed.

      Maybe when I leave I try an SQL injection.

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      I had to create an account on a government website. The website didn’t list a character limit so I used a password manager to generate a 32 character password. My account was created but I couldn’t log in. I used the “forgot my password” option and I received an email of my password in plain text. I also noticed why I couldn’t log in. The password was truncated to just 20 characters. Brilliant website! Tax dollars at work!

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      My bank’s password used to have to be exactly 6 characters, no special characters and you could use numbers and letters interchangeably because it was also your phone banking password.

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        a previous bank used to have a max password length of 8 characters, then proudly announced that they will increase it to 32

        Then I made a typo at the end of my password and it let me in anyway, and I realised they were just trimming the first 8 characters to give the illusion of security

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          That is so insane. To think they would rather just clip the passwords instead of habing it be longer.

          Did you try out your hypothesis by using the first 8 letters than just random junk until you hit your password length?

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            I tried then first N characters of my password until I found out the threshold was at 8, then I tried with the first 8 chartacters of my password and then random junk and it worked.

            I also had two friends in the same bank to validate

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      Holy shit!! You did it. I would never expect a banking password to max special characters. I have been scratching my head with Bitwarden and this shitty app for an hour.

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        Yeah but It still states “A combination of letters, digits and special charaters

        It should then be spelled as “A combination of letters digits, and one special character”

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    Well now. When we’ve been enforcing password requirements at work, we’ve had to enforce a bizarre combination of “you must have a certain level of complexity”, but also, “you must be slightly vague about what the requirements actually are, because otherwise it lets an attacker tune a dictionary attack against you”. Which just strikes me as a way to piss off our users, but security team say it’s a requirement, therefore, it’s a requirement, no arguing.

    “One” special character is crazy; I’d have guessed that was a catch-all for the other strange password requirements:

    • can’t have the same character more than twice in a row
    • can’t be one of the ten-thousand most popular passwords (which is mostly a big list of swears in russian)
    • all whitespace must be condensed into a single character before checking against the other rules

    We’ve had customers’ own security teams asking us if we can enforce “no right click” / “no autocomplete” to stop their users in-house doing such things; I’ve been trying to push back on that as a security misfeature, but you can’t question the cult thinking.

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        “Password managers are insecure because then all your passwords are just under one password” - Some higher up