• i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml
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    I’d like all ai service to publish the energy used in training the model and performing inference.

    “Queries uses an average of X kWh of power. A model training run requires X MWh, and the development of this model over the years required X TWh of power.”

    Then we could judge companies by that metric. Off course, rich people would look for the most power-draining model for the sake of it.

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      That’s already something that Meta is doing for their Llama models:

      Source

      You can extrapolate openai models consumption from these I guess

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        ok, but

        1. Is it still bad if they use renewables? in which case, it’s not horrendous, is it?

        2. what about the rest of their servers?

        3. Fuck facebook

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          If we are abundant in renewable energy no but if we are still at a level where available renewable energy can be used to replace non-renewable, then AI tech needs to justify its use cases too.

          and servers yes, social media related data center energy consumption should be put under heavy scrutiny too. Especially considering some energy hungry social media platforms like facebook are lately causing more harm than good (on other fronts such as political propaganda and racism). I doubt any of these are gonna happen soon though since many governments are heavily invested in using social media and LLM chatbots for propaganda and surveillance.

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          1. Power consumption is still power consumption, so 2 290 000kgCo2 is a lot, even if it’s way lower than what it would have been with coal plants
          2. They only talk about power consumption and not server hardware footprint, cause power consumption is the easier to offset
          3. Yes
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      development of this model over the years required X TWh of power

      This part is kind of hard to measure. When do you start counting? From the first work that informed the research direction eventually leading to this model? From the point where the concept of this final model first came about? Do you split the energy usage between multiple models that came from the same work?