We are reading the same story every week now.
Hamas accepts a permanent ceasefire and Israel refuses. They should change up the script a bit.
You forgot where Biden tries to say him and Israel have a path to peace but it’s Hamas who won’t work with them…
And within 24 hrs Bibi clarifying he only wants a “final solution” where none of his “enemies” are left alive, so no one should listen to Biden.
I’m pretty sure we’re on double digit laps by now.
I just don’t understand why Biden at this point is still saying shit, knowing Israel is going to immediately say the quiet part out loud again.
It’s not.just that Biden won’t stop funding this genocide, apparently him and his admin are the dumbest people ever. Even if they know what they’re saying is bullshit, they always forget Israel will just say shit like this that blows up trying to blame it on anyone else.
Don’t forget the israel shills talking about releasing the hostages to “end all this”
To be clear, this is on the right wing Netanyahu government, not all of Israel. There is protests in Israel about this right now : https://news.sky.com/story/huge-protests-call-on-israeli-pm-benjamin-netanyahu-to-approve-us-ceasefire-deal-and-release-hostages-13146730
Wasn’t there already a permanent ceasefire that Hamas broke?
My understanding is that there has not been a ceasefire for a very long time. But I might be wrong if so please correct me.
Israel broke it actually. They bombed Gaza. Israel loves to do shit and then claim it doesn’t break the cease fire for some reason.
Was there even a ceasefire to begin with?
Hamas has been shooting rockets at Israel for years, and Israel has been bombing Hamas as well.
I would argue that with Israel’s approach to the Palestinians there can never be a true cease fire. Colonial Settler violence is all about maintaining an image of propriety while abusing the local group. While it may appear that it’s just rockets and bombing missions, there’s state sanctioned gangs that regularly attack Palestinians, the state police routinely kidnap Palestinians, and they kick Palestinians off of land and use the Army to prevent them from returning. Those aren’t actions of a state trying to maintain a cease fire in good faith.
Which essentially makes it a forever war. Israel’s defenders keep saying this too- the war will end when Hamas is destroyed.
Every child killed creates a potential new Hamas member. Netanyahu knows this.
He’s taking a page from the Torah. One of the ways to completely eliminate your enemy was to wipe their entire culture off the face of the earth so not even one child is left to grow up to be a potential threat.
The ceasefire will force Netanyahu to form agreements within international law. Biden has already restored the sanctions, that Trump had previously repealed, on Israeli settlements on Palestinian land. Expansion is off the table. The only claim Israel can make is for return of hostages and request an end to attacks. If they fail to negotiate, or breach agreements afterward, Biden will have a documented platform for amendment of existing munitions supply.
Had the State Department not suppressed the intelligence that would have led to conclusive findings of war crimes, he could have already justified amendment of support against the direction of Congress.
What are you talking about, the Israeli government just announced a record breaking set of new settlement expansion lands. What sanctions did Biden restore or did Trump even add? Biden sanctioned less than 10 individual settlers and then repealed those sanctions under pressure.
Trump repealed 50-year-old sanctions preventing Israel from developing on Palestinian territory in 2019. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a new settlement after Trump in Golan Heights.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48656431
After Israel attempted to contract development on the West Bank, Biden restored the sanctions in the beginning of this year.
Biden restored US policy, he didn’t sanction Israel.
It’s a US policy that sanctions Israel’s ability to develop on Palestinian territory. How is that not the same? Are you really arguing the semantics of restoring vs. creating new legislation?
Your link merely says that Biden declared the settlements illegal, with no sanctions behind it. He is not restricting US aid money to the settlements or settlers, nor is he sanctioning businesses doing business in these illegal settlements. Your article points out that Israel defied Biden’s legal opinion and is expanding settlements anyway without US doing anything to stop it. Once again, where are the sanctions?
He’s sanctioned settlers since reinstating the law.
Are you saying Biden simply isn’t aware of the genocide, or that he’s completely powerless to have stopped the military aid?
I’m saying the inconclusive State Department report has his hands tied. Congress has already voted in favor of military aid. If Biden acts against the advisement of both branches, he’ll be exposed to an impeachment hearing for acting in bad faith. He needs the State Department to provide an accurate and conclusive report, or be at the table for negotiations for first-hand accountability, to justify amendment of existing support agreements without repercussion.
You don’t have to like it, but this is how the government is structured.
That’s untrue, Congress already passed the Lehy law and arms shipments are already bound by that. Biden could have followed the law and stopped weapons shipments based on that or the other law that block aid to countries that block humanitarian aid. Instead Biden bypassed Congress to give more weapons faster, when he didn’t do that for Ukraine.
Biden’s bypass was before he mandated a pause in munitions delivery pending a State Department investigation of breach of international law. I don’t believe he was interested in stopping the supply before that. Once the investigation returned inconclusive, he was limited in his actions without repercussion. Amending existing agreements against advisement of Congress and State Department intelligence would leave him exposed to impeachment by Congress for acting in bad faith.
Now that there’s reason to believe Blinken’s report was inconclusive due to suppression of intelligence, Biden can mandate a reassessment. Directly overseeing the ceasefire will stop causality sooner, allow for aid to Gaza more quickly, and allow him to deviate from Congress and the State Department if Israel negotiates in bad faith or breaches the agreement.
No. It’s more likely Biden leaned on the State Department to bury their findings. The organization is controlled by political appointees, remember. Typically their reports are a fait accompli. And no, there’s zero talk by Republicans on impeaching Biden over Israel, so you keep repeating this idea with no backing or evidence behind it. The president has broad discretionary powers in foreign policy and can restrict aid as he sees fit, and the courts including SCOTUS have consistently ruled in favor of the presidency on the issue.
Israel is absolutely working in bad faith, and Biden is enabling it. See Biden’s red line not being breached by airstrikes and literal tanks into Rafah according to Israeli government and with Biden rushing to agree after the fact, with excuses that tanks are merely on roads or that the airstrikes are limited under a new just-made up-threshold.
I don’t need evidence to assume the President is speaking truthfully. You should be providing evidence to the contrary. Innocent until proven guilty.
Your ignorance to checks and balances is the source of your confusion. Yes, the President can absolutely amend the aid without support of Congress or justification from US intelligence. Going against the advisement of both the Legislative and Executive Branches would absolutely have him checked by the Judiciary Branch in the form of an impeachment hearing.
Do really you think the report would have been inconclusive if they didn’t want it to be?
Who are “they?” Blinken or Biden? Biden’s proposal for ceasefire takes the State Department out of the equation and allows him to assess the conflict with direct oversight.
He’d be acting in bad faith without support of either the State Department or Congress.
Biden has three options:
Mandate reassessment from the State Department, hoping the report will be conclusive of crime justifying amendment of support
Investigate suppressed intelligence in the State Department, eventually leading to a reassessment of intelligence
Amend existing agreements against advisement from the State Department and Congress and face the impending impeachment hearing
Ah yes, the famously anti-Israel congress that would definitely be against Biden’s administration saying that they couldn’t find conclusive evidence of something that lots of other parties have found very conclusive evidence for.
I don’t understand the point you’re making. Congress does not report to the State Department.
Congress is the Legislative Branch.
The State Department is part of the Executive Branch.
Deviating from advisement of both branches will find Biden in an impeachment hearing for acting in bad faith.
“No end to Gaza war until ’destruction’ of Hamas”
Proceeds to bomb children’s hospital instead of Hamas
No, you see the pediatric doctors were seen talking to Hamas heath ministry officials so they’re terrorists too! And it’s really their fault because when they talked to the kids that made them Hamas as well. Sadly killing everyone is the only option left.
“No end to Gaza war until ’destruction’ of Hamas”
But don’t worry though, it’s definitely not a genocide.
No, no, you don’t understand. The children were Hamas
Bombing everyone in Gaza is a great way to turn many of them into hamas. How are those kids going to grow up sane and normal and make peace with Israel? Imagine a whole society with PTSD, it’s horrifying. Israel knows this too, which is they want to protect themselves through genocide. They really do think those kids are hamas.
Once they’ve turned everyone to Hamas they can justify their genocide that way. Or they can just keep genociding anyway and claim it’s because they heard Hamas was in the hospitals, the schools, the universities, the people’s homes, the shops, the refugee camps, the streets, etc.
… the ambulances, the random US warship passing by, their own tanks …
The average age in Gaza is under 19 so in all likelihood Hamas must be a lot of minors
So he said out loud that he won’t accept anything but a Final Solution?
Do you think all Palestinians are Hamas?
Seems racist to me.
The Israeli government conveniently thinks exactly that.
I mean he is killing them indiscriminately defending it as hamas
Dude, chill. I’m on your side.
I think eliminating all of Hamas is a practical impossibility without eliminating essentially all Palestinians, because Israel has shown us again and again that it’s unable or unwilling to to fight Hamas without killing any civilians who happen to be near them. And even if that were not the case, I think Netanyahu would gladly kill every last Palestinian under the pretense of eliminating Hamas.
must be nice. you fund and create hamas to stop the pro peace PLO so that you can use their existence to perpetrate endless war
epecially when the palestinian authority warned you that calling an election would result in the ascension of hamas to power and israel and the us insisted on the election anyway.
create hamas
That’s not how it works.
It’s a shame their definition of Hamas includes all Palestinians.
See Also: The War on Drugs, The War on Terror.
Because those went well. Big success story.
Vietnam
Al Qaida
Even the US COVID response…
All were stopped eventually because the US government got bored and wanted to do something else. No winners. Only losers.
If he wants to destroy Hamas, what’s the plan for someone else to take over after Hamas? Oh right, there is no plan for that. Whenever this war ends, Hamas will still be there and more powerful than ever, because that’s exactly the strategy that is Israel is (wittingly or unwittingly) following.
I’m under the impression that it’s pretty evident that Israel is doing a land grab. They’ve been doing it since 1967.
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Ask your american friends how well a war against terrorism works.
It doesn’t.
Sincerely, an Iraq/Afghanistan vet
If only we could figure out a way to shoot an ideology…
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Benjamin Netanyahu has insisted on Hamas’s destruction as part of an Israeli plan presented by the US president, Joe Biden, to end the Gaza war.
I welcome @POTUS Biden’s initiative & encourage all parties to seize this opportunity for a ceasefire, release of all hostages, guaranteed unhindered humanitarian access & ultimately a durable peace in the Middle East.”
The German foreign minister, Annalena Baerbock, said the Israeli offer “provides a glimpse of hope and a possible path out of the war’s deadlock”, and the EU chief, Ursula von der Leyen, welcomed a “balanced and realistic” approach to end the bloodshed.
Israel sent tanks and troops into Rafah in May, ignoring concerns over the safety of displaced Palestinian civilians sheltering in the city on the Egyptian border.
“There are a number of occupation [Israeli] snipers in high-rise buildings overseeing all areas of Tal al-Sultan … making the situation very dangerous.”
The Israeli seizure of the Rafah crossing has further slowed sporadic deliveries of aid for Gaza’s 2.4 million people and in effect shuttered the territory’s main exit point.
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No end to Gaza war until the destruction of Netanyahu
Incase anyone here is not already aware, the war is causing Hamas. Word is that previously Hamas was caused by Netanyahu’s direct support.
This is ridiculous take. Hamas existed before the war and have been a terrorist organization for decades.
Criticize Israel and the handling of the war all you want, that is fair. But this white washing of Hamas as if they weren’t deranged extremists is just ridiculous.
white washing of Hamas
What? How do you read this as white-washing Hamas? My comment didn’t claim Hamas was ever virtuous, infact it was entirely silent in text on if hams was good or not. I thought it was part of the subtext, but if it’s not clear: Hamas is bad. The reason Netanyahu chose Hamas as his enemy is because they’re evil and hard to cheer for, which makes the genocide easier.
The reason Netanyahu chose Hamas as his enemy
That’s also a strange take. He did not choose the ones who arranged the October 7 attack. Same with tons of rockets they built and sent to Israel.
I guess I misunderstood. I’ve read a lot of comments on here trying to paint Hamas as some good guy under dog.
Sorry for the confusion.
Yeah, those comments are annoying.
Don’t worry, it happens.
Now, now Bibi. You wouldn’t want to be compared to an Austrian art school dropout that orchestrated the death of some your ancestors now would you?
It’s only possible to eliminate Hamas if Israel pushes out or kills everyone in Gaza.
Isn’t that what they’re doing already? They don’t differentiate between Palestinians and HAMAS anymore.
Sure looks like it to me. Israel couldn’t care less about Hamas in my opinion. That’s just the cover story.
Never did.
