• jmanes@lemmy.world
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    Good god. I feel bad for them on two fronts.

    1. That’s a brutal way to die and at a young age.
    2. They were so delusioned by religion that they put themselves in danger to spread around ancient mythological texts to random people.

    In no way is religion worth the events.

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    In case anyone was curious about what sort of politician has a daughter who’s a full time missionary, yes he is exactly the cruel and corrupt grifter you’d expect, and a notably half assed one.

    He introduced a bill to “regulate sexual content” in libraries, which he claimed was inspired by drag story hour, however drag story hours were not addressed in the bill.

    He sponsored a bill to let parents sue schools if they don’t like what their children are learning.

    He’s tried to pre-emptively block ranked-choice voting and forcibly de-transition adult prisoners as part of the “Missouri Child and Adolescent Protection Act.”

    My favourite is that he tried to pre-emptively block cities from banning pet store animals, at the request of Petland and others, after Petland was linked to bacterial infection outbreaks, puppy-mills and some fairly obvious cruelty. “He further acknowledged that he had not researched existing Missouri law on the matter.” (per wikipedia)

    If you’re cruel or rich, Ben Baker’s got your back.

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      Part of that RCV bill is also aimed at outlawing the current Approval Voting primaries they use in St. Louis. There’s been interest in switching the entire state to approval, and Ben Baker just can’t have that happen.

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      Couldn’t have happened to a better person. It’s a shame child protective services didn’t intervene in time. Indoctrinating children is child abuse.

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    A lot of victim blaming in this thread.

    I don’t agree with their theological views, and I don’t love that indoctrination is so often tied to humanitarian efforts.

    But these are people who were trying to help out children in the middle of the second worst humanitarian crisis in the world right now, and the one that very very few people are giving much attention to as the other dominates news cycles and most of the Western world has just written off Africa as a whole (oops). (Also, I think this may be the only story about Hati on Lemmy in recent history, in fact).

    They didn’t ‘deserve’ getting brutally murdered for sticking around and not abandoning the children’s schools and homes they spent the past decades cultivating.

    They did a lot more to help people than I ever have, even if a key factor in their doing so was what I might consider delusional thinking.

    And so even if I’m not a fan of some aspects of their lives, I respect what they did do, and think it’s a bit fucked up to be making light of their deaths.

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      Haiti is not in Africa. Also, Biden literally announced a partnership with Kenya this week.

      I agree with you overall though.

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      I’m surprised myself at the amount of people wishing death onto others throughout this community. It’s definitely weird to me.

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        If you want an unsettling thing to think about, look into Calhoun’s rats.

        Social media has essentially overcrowded our functional distance with one another.

        You could be on a ranch with no one around for miles, and yet you have hundreds if not thousands of other people are directly interacting with you giving and competing for dopamine hits.

        And just like the rats we now have people not leaving their domiciles, being apathetic, hedonistic, etc. We’re mentally falling apart because we’re just too overcrowded.

        “Tankie!” “Fascist!” “Heathen!” “Religious nut!” “Zionist!” “Antisemite!”

        (Eventually the rats end up eating each other.)

        Yet here we both are. That dopamine drip sure is nice…

        Don’t forget to like and subscribe!

    • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      So, we are 100% that they weren’t proselytizing while doing their charity work?

      It’s sad they were killed but any sort of missionary work is colonialism. “Your religion isn’t good enough. We’re here to save you.”

      Additionally, they probably knew how dangerous it was. It’s not they were killed doing missionary work in Denmark.

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        Absolutely one of the worst takes I’ve seen.

        These aren’t settlers and they weren’t running a Canadian Indian school burying children out back either. Kids trying to share their beliefs (misguided as they may be) aren’t colonizers and if they aren’t welcome, execution is not the right answer you troglodyte.

        It’s not rocket science to expect a society to condemn extrajudicial violence. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad about it.

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    It was all a part of God’s plan. God works in mysterious ways. Jesus pulled the trigger.

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    I respect the work they were trying to do, but like… everyone was saying to GTFO of Haiti nearly a year ago. It’s not worth your life.

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      Haiti needs food, not Christian missionaries.

      These are tourists killed on vacation.

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        I don’t agree with their religion and they shouldn’t have even been there. But to say that they were tourists is unfair. They were full-time missionaries. They (sadly) dedicated their lives to spreading their religion. They also probably tried to help meet basic needs like food, shelter, etc.

        Religion is complicated and this was a preventable tragedy.

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      I respect the work they were trying to do

      Why? They were missionaries. That’s not a good thing. Not saying they should be murdered of course but I think respect is really not what they deserve either.

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      I don’t respect the work they were doing. Shoving the Bible down people’s throats isn’t a nobel cause.