Are we (linux) ready for arm devices like snapdragon elite X? Asahi runs on mac os with arm chips and the software somehow runs better than macos itself?! Is the softwares packaged for arm linux different? Is there much softwares available for the arm platform like softwares available for the intel/amd chipsets?
After all are you optimistic about linux and arm?
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I want RISC-V chips to become common-place. Fuck ARM.
Support by packages is generally there. What is lacking however, are drivers for video acceleration and many other soc- and often board-specific customisations required.
X86 in contrary offers one unified and queriable interface (ACPI, UEFI) that makes custom images unnecessary. ARM has ServerReady for that, however I’m not aware of any consumer chip that implements this.
not aware of any consumer chip that implements this.
And that’s on purpose.
Also on purpose is the fact that no one is investigating ARM’S dominance.
ARM support is decent already, I just hope RISC-V catches on
Even Debian has had ARM support since 2000. It’s not just ready, it’s mature.
I’m more excited for Linux on RISC-V, but yeah, Arm is neat.
There’s an unofficial project that aims to bring Arch Linux to RISC-V, it’s still a work in progress though: https://archriscv.felixc.at/
Linux has been ready for ARM for a long time, Android is linux and have been running for a long time. Also see the Raspberry Pi and PiOS, based on Debian.
I run a Pi and there are boat loads of things ARM ready
Android is not linux ootb But pi is Thanks i didn’t thought about it ( ꈍᴗꈍ)
Looks like the Google bots are dominant here also … pushing the android abomination.
Android runs on the Linux kernel, so it’s Linux. You could consider it a distribution with almost none of the normal packages a standard Linux distribution would include, but it’s still Linux at the core.
It’s been sufficiently transformed that the creator of the first half of GNU/Linux doesn’t think it’s Linux and I find his arguments convincing. Just like Linux isn’t in the Unix family Android is something different. Further reading: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/sep/19/android-free-software-stallman
Stallman has absolutely no say about what makes Linux. His tools, though important to the free software movement, are not necessary to create a Linux distribution.
There is NO GNU/Linux. Stallman doesn’t get to name or claim ownership of someone else’s baby. It’s Linux, so named by its creator.
It may not be “GNU/Linux” (whatever that stupid name means) but it’s still Linux. If it uses the Linux kernel, then it’s Linux, simple as. No one said it has to be *nix to be considered Linux. And even then Android is *nix. You can actually run many Linux programs if you have root access or by using Termux. If Android isn’t Linux to you, Alpine Linux shouldn’t be either.
The kernel used by Android is Linux, just like the kernel used by PiOS.
You don’t run application softwares on top of kernel. The kernel itself is not an operating system.
It needs certain libraries. I’m talking about software availability on arm linuxI have a couple RPis and there is plenty of software that runs on them.
I’d say we (the linux community) are working on it. It’s much better than let’s say 5 years ago. Quite a few mainstream distros like Fedora and Ubuntu have ARM builds, there’s Armbian (Debian for ARM), Arch Linux for ARM and even Pop!_OS has a Raspberry Pi build. As you mentioned, there’s Asahi Linux for Apple Silicon Macs as well as an unofficial version of Ubuntu called Ubuntu Asahi.
I used a PineBook 2 as a secondary machine, daily, for a couple of years. I never felt constrained by the CPU architecture, barely noticed it mostly. I stopped using it because it fell apart physically, but it was perfectly stable. I’d get another if I could get a sturdier one.
