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Any tool that calls itself “open source” and uses proprietary encryption that they refuse to let any neutral third party review, should absolutely not be trusted.
It’s open standard, not open source
but we need to trust them that the standard is actually implemented
Yep. Which is why FOSS development and support of FOSS developers is so important
The definition of words are indeed, critical 👍
So can I write my own implementation and talk to other people via rcs? If not, then I don’t think it deserves being called an open standard
Too many people misunderstand open source and free to use.
Signal > Matrix/Element > RCS > SMS.
iMessage isn’t in the equation because it only works on a single platform.
signal protocol is basically the opposite, open source but the company is hostile to 3rd party client development
They can’t prevent 3rd party apps, so what’s the issue?
From what I understand, they don’t want 3rd party apps to use their servers.
Understandable actually. Server maintenance costs money and if a 3rd party chat app; which significantly has more usage than other forms of social media; is trying to connect to the server, they have to handle that traffic too. Remember, it is not just about data size, but also the sheer volume of connection to handle.
I think the solution is just P2P with each peer acting as a relay to the other too. The protocol needs to be designed in such a way that no-one in the middle can reply to send false acknowledgement so as to prevent sybil attack or other attack where a malicious actor is a part of the network.
My point is basically that matrix/element is arguable the much more ethical chat solution because of its openess still with a focus on security.
This is an often repeated piece of misinformation. The developer of gurk-rs, a third party Signal client, has even said this himself. The client presents itself with a completely identifiable name to the Signal servers - the Signal devs can see this and could easily block this client from connecting but they don’t. This project has existed for at least 3+ years now.
Now to convince Grandma to use Signal
We successfully managed. Good times over here.
Meanwhile I can’t even get my boomer mom to switch to Google Messages from Samsung Messages because she’d “have to relearn how to use it.” Then she just continues to complain that she can’t send messages over WiFi, and that when she sends or receives pictures over SMS they get compressed… 💢
I had several friends and family switched over, until they killed SMS support like idiots. I now know maybe one or two people using it, and barely use it anymore.
They killed SMS support? Maybe not in Germany as an exception, I still use Google messages to recive spam SMS.
Signal killed sms
Oh yeah sorry, I’m really stupid early in the morning. I read something else in this thread about Google Messages and just assumed it was related. I didn’t even know Signal had SMS support, that honestly sounds like a good feature
disclaimer: i barely know what im talking about here so if any of the language in this post is inaccurate feel free to reach out
It’s correct, although I’m surprised that there isn’t even a FOSS implementation of the unencrypted part.
Hopefully you made this in GIMP
impgflip.com, with full love to the community GIMP is ass at making memes
This meme is just two images and some text, no offense but you could make this using only ffmpeg if you were sufficiently masochistic
“What photo editing app do you use? Photoshop? GIMP? MS Paint?”
“ffmpeg.”
“All hail technomancer Joe, wielder of ffmpeg!”
Did people call RCS open source? I’m not a huge follower of the standard, but I don’t think I ever heard that said. In fact, I’ve heard people complain about not just the proprietary encryption but lack of E2E and carrier/Google control.
Its only advantages are that it is better than SMS and supported by the carriers, Google and Apple sometime this year.
It’s a shitty standard but given how shitty SMS is, I’m willing to hold my nose and jump in.
yes sorry when i called it “open source” that was an overstatement that others have since corrected
“open standard” is correct—nevertheless doesn’t excuse google’s deceptive marketing to force this as industry standard instead of investing in something actually open source and aproprietary
-switches to signal or Matrix-
