• Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    Yes yes everything critical of the Israeli genocide machine is antisemitism, we’ve heard that one before Joe.

    How about you stop funding genocide instead of trying to paint people as racist for resisting.

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      7 months ago

      Except there have been antisemitic incidents, namely verbal harassment. You can condemn antisemitism and condemn Israel. You can also protest Israel without spewing epithets at any Jew you come across.

      And god forbid Biden condemn Palestinian hate, right?

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        7 months ago

        Right and the BLM protests were all about causing violence and looting?

        I’m sick of this right wing tactic of focusing on some inconsequentially insignificant portion of multiple events, many with zero instances of the priority complaint even occurring and using that to frame the entire movement to discredit it.

        “Oh but Biden also wrapped it up with a throw away comment saying he’s totes mcgotes not okay with the happening right now genocide that he is materially supporting”

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          Advantageous looting follows a lot of civil unrest. Not sure how that’s relevant here.

          The fact is that people on campus were being harassed solely based on their background. That’s okay?

          It’s not really insignificant when you’re looking at Columbia in particular. Maybe at other schools, but you just said you don’t like people bringing in irrelevant events to the discussion, so I won’t go there.

          I see you completely ignored the part where Biden condemned Israel, since it doesn’t fit your narrative. Let me guess, you won’t support the democrats because “both parties are the same”.

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        7 months ago

        Condemnation is words, and talk is cheap. I want action.

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          US sanctions to Israel would instantly stop the Genocide and make Netanyahu’s government fall within a week.

          The actions that the Biden’s Administration’s choses to take: send them 2000lb bombs which the US itself almost never uses because of their huge collateral damage and likelihood of killing innocent civilians.

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      7 months ago

      Earlier in Israel’s Genocide that’s exactly the way his spokesperson used the “antisemitism” accusation in a White House press conference so it makes sense to conclude that’s still exactly how Biden and his Adminstration use it.

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      7 months ago

      Yes yes everything critical of the Israeli genocide machine is antisemitism, we’ve heard that one before Joe.

      Can you point me to a time, specifically, where he labelled simple criticism of Israel “antisemitism?”

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          I understand that it happens, I see it myself. Im specifically asking about where Biden has done this. I didn’t read the article, but I did search it for both Biden and president and neither had a hit. So if that article does actually point out him doing this, could you quote the part?

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            I could’ve sworn he said the “anti zionism is antisemitism” line, but that might have just been sensationalism from the December house resolution. Apparently it was pretty controversial among democrats so I don’t even know anymore.

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        A couple of months ago his spokesperson did exactly that in a White House press conference though they stopped doing it as that specific propaganda trick started working in reverse.

        I can’t be arsed wasting my time Googling it for what sounds suspiciously like a hasbara sockpuppet. Anybody genuinelly interested can find it him/herself.

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          Anybody genuinelly interested can find it him/herself.

          So, basically, because you can’t provide it, you aren’t genuinely interested in it.

          Seriously, how am I supposed to know what you are talking about? If it doesn’t exist, I could be searching forever and still not prove it doesn’t exist. If you aren’t willing to back up a claim, don’t make it.

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            I saw it live, on TV (not even a US channel), on a news segment coverage of a White House press conference.

            The effort necessary to dig the video if at all possible or actual written news of it in a language you understand (as that was not in an English-speaking channel) isn’t justfied to answer a random poster on the Internet using a style of demand for “proof” which is very common amongst trolls, astroturfers and sockpuppets, especially because if you are one of such bad faith actors, you would just come up with some other “argument” willfully denying the obvious such as “yeah, but Joe Biden himself didn’t do it”.

            Given your totally illogical argument (bad faith or just irrational?!) that me not wanting to dig it out to see it again is the same as me not being interested in it, I’m sure I’ll manage to endure the stress from the risk that you’re actually not a bad faith actor and still do not believe me…

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    7 months ago

    The Israeli lobby and PR machine is going into overdrive over these protests. It must be working. How can we support them?

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        What news are you reading? Republicans want more funding for Israeli defense. They tried to draft legislation for Israel aid independent of Ukraine and Taiwan. You’re joking, right?

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            That’s true. Historically, America has always been in support of Israel. Democrats support Israel, and Republicans support Israel and push for an active war with Iran.

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    7 months ago

    As in he condemns both antisemitism and he condemns apathy for Palestinians. That makes sense. Antisemitism is bad. Pro-Palestinian is good. I hate that we’re still funding Israel. But I’m glad he’s been openly critical of Netanyahu and has been constantly been pushing for aid to Gaza.