• JustinA
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    6 months ago

    If the Russians didn’t want more countries in NATO, then they shouldn’t have invaded Ukraine. It’s not “imperialism” or “russophobia” for Finland to be afraid of a Russian invasion.

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        Never forget that NATO was collaborating with Nazis and performing false flag terrorist operations in Europe after WW2 to instill red panic and install pro-US leaders.

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          6 months ago

          The cold war is over

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            NATO is still collaborating with Nazis to this day. You can’t see a single picture from Ukraine that doesn’t have a Nazi patch and Canada recently gave a standing ovation for a “Ukrainian war hero” who, uh oh, was a general for the waffen SS. I mean, what do you expect from an institution literally started by a Nazi? The fact that people still choose not to see it leads me to the most regrettable of conclusions.

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                Literally shut the fuck up. Do you seriously have dick-all for media literacy? How are people still falling for this…?

                I’m so fucking sick of this bullshit. I know it isn’t true, but please for the love of god tell me the reason you’re saying this is because you’re a bad faith nazi, I would honestly prefer that over yet another shit-for-brains white liberal who passively believes everything they’re hear on the TV.

                EDIT: You know what? That was way too aggro, i’m just fucking exhausted. I should have just asked you your stance on Israel so you could reveal yourself as being a being a massive monster to the moderators. That would have been the correct play.

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                  Go educate yourself: https://youtu.be/exJ024Zdzdk

                  I am a Swedish social democrat, and this video is by Sarcasmitron on YouTube, who is also a social democrat.

                  And yes, the US’s veto on the UN cease-fire resolution was their biggest foreign policy mistake in 2023.

                  It is not bannable on lemmy.ml for communists to think I’m a “liberal”, and I would end my monthly donations to Dessalines and Nutomic if it was.

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                    Well as long as you’re not running around justifying genocide that’s all that matters to me. I’m still deeply offended that you would try to claim that the standing ovation for a literal SS officer that happened in Canada was “russian propaganda” though.

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        6 months ago

        Why shouldn’t former DDR countries sign a defensive pact? Why would Russia not want them to do that?

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          former DDR countries

          when you definitely know what you’re talking about

          this is the former DDR country, singular

          Why would Russia not want them to do that?

          Because NATO agreed not to? Because they expect agreements to be upheld?

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        Sure, it was a dumb move because it angered Russia, but it’s not a reason to murder civilians.

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      Not just Ukraine, they invaded Georgia in 2008 and are currently creating a breakaway region in Moldova just like before the invasions of both Ukraine and Georgia.

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      I don’t get what Russia thought would happen tbh. We hadn’t joined because we thought Russia wasn’t as shitty country anymore and wouldn’t just start an actual war in Europe. Then they had to go and prove us wrong.

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        FYI, this lemmy community is pro-Russian, I got banned for saying that the Ukrainian government wasn’t run by nazis. Go to [email protected] instead.